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Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by nebula8804 on Monday November 01, 2021 @12:20PM (#29068857)
China has hundreds of EV car startups and it appears that they are reaching the capability of making half decent cars. When these cars enter places like the US market, they are going to decimate the competition. We should probably expect an invasion of Chinese cars in the next few years.

For example:

[1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_e2

This car looks like a decent entry level car, 190-250 Miles. starting at around ~16k. Even if it sells for 25k in the US, it seems like good value.

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by omgwtfbyobbq on Monday November 01, 2021 @02:02PM (#29070441)
NEDC range is about 80% of EPA range, so that would probably be ~150-200 miles of range if it sold in the US.

$16k is great though. The base Nissan Leaf is $27k for 150 miles. At the same time, I'm not sure how much importing it would raise that. If, like you said, it sells for $25k in the US, that's a decent value if it's other features are comparable to a base Leaf, but I don't think it would decimate the competition.

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by Goety on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:21PM (#29071649)
Yup. Weird connections with Tesla.
Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by throwaway210222 on Monday November 01, 2021 @01:09PM (#29069686)
> When these cars enter places like the US market, they are going to decimate the competition.

Surely they will then become national security threats?

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by ge96 on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:26PM (#29071727)
Wonder if they had autopiloting built into them, could control them across the ocean.
Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by dragontamer on Monday November 01, 2021 @12:58PM (#29069487)
The 1980s wasn't called the "Cold War era" because Japan suddenly gave us nice cars. The USA welcomes economic competition with foreign rivals. May the best car win.

The issue is that China is beginning to aggressively take out interest in Democracies in their sphere: first Hong Kong, and everyone knows that Taiwan is in their crosshairs now.

We didn't (and wouldn't) go to war over Hong Kong. Taiwan however... that's different and is truly a serious threat.

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If anything: additional trade and cultural exchanges are needed to foster a spirit of competition / cooperation even in the face of our nuclear weapons being trained upon each other. We don't really know if the Moscow Circus prevented a US / Soviet nuclear exchange... but maybe it did??

Re:U.S. telecoms are going to start physically removing Huaw... by nebula8804 on Monday November 01, 2021 @03:24PM (#29071694)
EVs may be a winner take all market in the sense that there is a lot of software and tech that the incumbents (except Tesla) are traditionally bad at. If the market expects this it may take a long time for incumbents to catch up. We might see bankruptcies and consolidation. Auto manufacturing is the final large manufacturing industry left in the US and it going away will hurt the country dearly.