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Re:Data trading for ad revenue must be regulated by mupuff1234 on Monday November 01, 2021 @06:34AM (#29064962)
Saying society is screwed because ads are more expensive seems like quite a stretch to me.

Looking at the NYTimes stock as an example it seems that they are doing pretty well these days (although some might argue their quality has gone down)

Re:Data trading for ad revenue must be regulated by franczesko on Monday November 01, 2021 @07:50AM (#29065498)
Just imagine, how content publishing and journalism alone would have developed, if publishers wouldn't be cut off by the advertising cartel of Google and Facebook.
Re:Data trading for ad revenue must be regulated by bryan_w on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @07:37AM (#29079730)
Or if they would have rubbed 2 brain cells together in 2005 and actually tried to come up with an attractive web presence.

It's like the news media saw what was happening with music and napster/the internet and thought, "Glad that could never happen to us" and went right back to the printing press to fire off the next day's issue.

Re:Data trading for ad revenue must be regulated by iso1210 on Monday November 01, 2021 @08:57AM (#29066131)
> Saying society is screwed because ads

Stop your sentence there and I'd agree with you

Re:Data trading for ad revenue must be regulated by TravisLS on Monday November 01, 2021 @08:50AM (#29066074)
NYTimes digital revenue is mostly subscriptions. Other publishers with lesser brand names are much more beholden to Google.
Re:Data trading for ad revenue must be regulated by ATsch on Monday November 01, 2021 @11:33AM (#29068075)
In the original context I read the statement "either google is screwed or society is screwed" as referring to the lawsuit, not Google's behavior.

That is, to project some of my own opinions: If something like this is not enough to cause major consequences for a big company like google, there is little hope that anything will.

Re:Data trading for ad revenue must be regulated by WORMS_EAT_WORMS on Monday November 01, 2021 @09:17AM (#29066295)
It’s not just ads - there’s a general feeling with a lot of their products and services priorities have shifted away from protecting the user.

You could find a bone to pick with any big company. It’s just clear priorities at the company have shifted from their fun growth days of just doing what’s best/right for users to optimizing for money and other KPIs - search, ads, you name it.

It’s definitely noticeable and their size/monopoly definitely has influence on society.

Re:Data trading for ad revenue must be regulated by onimishra on Monday November 01, 2021 @09:16AM (#29066284)
> (although some might argue their quality has gone down)

Isn’t that the entire thing the article argues? That journalism (real journalism, that is meant to keep those in power on the straight and narrow), suffers because not enough money goes to the actual journalists? Stock is the public’s perception of something’s value, but the actual value to society can not be measured in stocks.