The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet

Re:The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet by lm28469 on Saturday October 30, 2021 @07:36AM (#29047987)

> We change the world around us in all that we do. We live in air-conditioning.

And we see that it clearly has a very negative impact overall so idk what kind of argument is that.

"everything sucked so we destroyed our environment and enslaved ourselves to machines to make it bearable"

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Re:The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet by snakeboy on Saturday October 30, 2021 @07:51AM (#29048060)

> And we see that it clearly has a very negative impact overall so idk what kind of argument is that.

You're talking about AC? Surely the climate dialogue hasn't devolved to the point of "uses energy == bad". We can reflect on its role in shaping society/living spaces and its costs and benefits without being so reductionist.

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Re:The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet by paulcole on Saturday October 30, 2021 @08:25AM (#29048234)

Yeah and I have Type 1 diabetes and inject myself with insulin. I’m kinda glad that we bent the world to my will there.

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Re:The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet by lm28469 on Saturday October 30, 2021 @09:12AM (#29048491)

As if insulin had the same impact as the millions of ac units used to live in the middle of deserts

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Re:The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet by paulcole on Saturday October 30, 2021 @01:41PM (#29050705)

I think they use air conditioning to keep my insulin from going bad while it’s in transit to me.

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Re:The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet by tapland on Saturday October 30, 2021 @09:32AM (#29048604)

You bring that up as a bad in this context, where enironmental impact because of poor ways of generating electricity is not relevant.

AC has had an extremely positive impact. Simple uses energy == bad reasoning hasn't.

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Re:The metaverse is already here, it's called the internet by Nevermark on Saturday October 30, 2021 @07:58AM (#29048096)

I really don't think most of the good that comes from tech required the bad enabled by tech.

Humans are just really good at externalizing costs on the environment and on each other.

And enough humans are driven by motivated reasoning so that entire organizations are devoted to disrupting any attempts at fixing things.

Those are human problems. Facebooks social problems are not caused by the evils of digital scrapbooking with reliable write/read coherence over shards. They are the evils of humans redirecting information based on perverse incentives, taking profits from others pain.

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