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Re:Vimconf 2021 – Oct 29, 30 by User23 on Friday October 29, 2021 @10:41PM (#29045545)
What’s the vim community’s take on kakoune[1]?

[1] http://kakoune.org/

Re:Vimconf 2021 – Oct 29, 30 by thih9 on Friday October 29, 2021 @11:10PM (#29045674)
As a vim user (sample size one) I’m not tempted to try it due to differences, especially:

> Kakoune’s grammar is object followed by verb, combined with instantaneous feedback [in vim, it’s verb followed by object]

> vi treats moving around and selecting an object as two different things. Kakoune unifies that, moving is selecting. w does not just go to the next word, it selects from current position to the next word

(source: http://kakoune.org/why-kakoune/why-kakoune.html )

The increased interactivity seems nice but the loss of backwards compatibility and having to relearn and retrain basic commands seems not worth it to me.

Re:Vimconf 2021 – Oct 29, 30 by llimllib on Friday October 29, 2021 @11:06PM (#29045659)
Hard to speak for everybody, but I think a common opinion is that it's a neat project that has some pluses and minuses and doesn't seem to be worth the effort to switch to.
Re:Vimconf 2021 – Oct 29, 30 by gen220 on Friday October 29, 2021 @11:14PM (#29045694)
I don’t know if anyone can speak for the whole community. Personally, I use vim for a similar reason that I use Postgres. It’s open source and well-tested. The rough edges are extremely well known, and relatively polished or padded.

And, if a feature is desirable enough, I know it’ll end up as a vim feature sooner or later. Like JSONB, timescaledb, etc. for PG.

Kakoune looks like it has some cool features! They’ll probably end up in Vim (or nvim) eventually.

Re:Vimconf 2021 – Oct 29, 30 by lawn on Friday October 29, 2021 @11:23PM (#29045725)
Seems good, but the vast amount of neovim plugins I use makes a switch very unlikely.