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Re:Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm by nescioquid on Friday October 29, 2021 @10:59AM (#29039244)
Former firefighter cautions we should be skeptical of the safety of this plan, and your rebuttal is "surely building codes mandate..."? A zero-evidence rebuttal concerning the safety of 4500 students.
Re:Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm by jl6 on Friday October 29, 2021 @11:14AM (#29039435)
I don’t find it unreasonable to assume that the building will comply with government fire safety regulations and that those regulations are at least somewhat adequate.
Re:Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm by mindcrime on Friday October 29, 2021 @11:29AM (#29039637)
You might be surprised. Fire regulations are very much a local issue and there can be a lot of variance (although many local municipalities base their codes on standards put out by bodies like the NFPA, etc.).

There are quite frequently things that one might intuitively expect to be in the regs, that aren't. Requirements for sprinklers, for example. As surprising as it may seem, there are still lots of places where sprinklers are not required in many buildings.

I don't know the situation in Santa Barbara, but I did email their fire department earlier with an inquiry about this topic. Hoping to hear something back.

Re:Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm by docfort on Friday October 29, 2021 @11:50AM (#29039937)
Re:Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm by tw04 on Friday October 29, 2021 @12:07PM (#29040171)
I don't find it unreasonable to think that government regulations around fire safety are based on current building trends. Nobody in the US stuffs 4500 people into a single building with almost all of them in the interior of the building. Nobody would voluntarily live that way, even the "projects" were/are more humane.

Just looking at the proposed floorplan, in an emergency it would be a nightmare to get out. 7 kids trying to get out that one door with a giant table in the way while likely panicking? It screams deathtrap.

Re:Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm by ClumsyPilot on Friday October 29, 2021 @01:31PM (#29041235)
You know who was violating fire regulations for decades? Nuclear Power plants! You would things that's the one place where safety would be taken seriously, right?

https://www.wiseinternational.org/nuclear-monitor/601/fire-p...

Re:Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm by salawat on Friday October 29, 2021 @04:26PM (#29043176)
Nuclear Plants have an adversarial interest in access control though. Sometimes, yes, even fire safety loses out.
Re:Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm by fdr on Friday October 29, 2021 @11:22AM (#29039549)
The regulations may have been written with architectural rules of thumb in mind, as in, "surely no one would..."
Re:Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm by LegitShady on Friday October 29, 2021 @12:36PM (#29040539)
Building code isn't really written as rules of thumb but as rules.
Re:Architect Resigns in Protest over UCSB Mega-Dorm by skeeter2020 on Friday October 29, 2021 @11:51AM (#29039961)
If you were an architect who was concerned enough with the design to quit, wouldn't you both know about and publicize potential (or real) safety concerns?