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Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by danso on Thursday October 28, 2021 @02:21PM (#29029379)
For better or worse, it does seem Zuckerberg is as invested in making the "metaverse" the new future of Facebook as Jobs was with Apple and the iPhone
Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by wolverine876 on Thursday October 28, 2021 @04:06PM (#29031174)
> For better or worse, it does seem Zuckerberg is as invested in making the "metaverse" the new future of Facebook as Jobs was with Apple and the iPhone

I don't think we should take that at face value; Zuckerberg of course has strong motivations to appear completely committed, including a desire to motivate employees, partners, etc., and a desire to distract from FB's current bad news (which might explain the timing - why now?). If we take it at face value, we are part of the messaging.

For one thing, FB's metaverse is an over-the-horizon technology and product, very much vapor at this point and one that may never happen. The iPhone went on sale months after Jobs' announcement (IIRC).

More interesting is that FB possibly has lost so much confidence in its brand that it's de-emphasizing it, which seems like an overreaction to me.

Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by KaiserPro on Thursday October 28, 2021 @06:02PM (#29032619)
> The iPhone went on sale months after Jobs' announcement (IIRC).

yes, but thats a different CEO who was about presenting themselves as perfect. Zuckerberg for his legion of faults has never done this. He is far more comfortable saying what he wants to deliver _first_

> don't think we should take that at face value

We don't need to, they've handily split out the amount of money they are pouring into this in the public accounts.

> More interesting is that FB possibly has lost so much confidence in its brand that it's de-emphasizing it, which seems like an overreaction to me.

It was fucking stupid to try and link them so closely in the first place. Instagram was a cool brand. Instagram by facebook is deffo not.

Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by disgruntledphd2 on Friday October 29, 2021 @06:24AM (#29037017)
> It was fucking stupid to try and link them so closely in the first place. Instagram was a cool brand. Instagram by facebook is deffo not.

Yeah, that was not a smart business decision. I think the goal was to make it look like FB was cool by associating it with the other brands, but all it did was make the other brands worse.

That's the kind of craziness you can get from a founder that controls everything I suppose.

Bear in mind that Mark Zuckerberg has only ever worked at Facebook, which must be pretty weird.

Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by bcherny on Friday October 29, 2021 @01:37AM (#29035527)
Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by wolverine876 on Friday October 29, 2021 @01:42AM (#29035551)
Good point, but let's see what they actually do.
Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by JKCalhoun on Thursday October 28, 2021 @02:28PM (#29029501)
Seems like "metaverse" means walled internet.

"You've got mail!" LOL

Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by creshal on Thursday October 28, 2021 @03:04PM (#29030167)
The iPhone turned out to be the most walled garden smartphone as well (even compared to older designs that relied on Java ME), and it didn't exactly hurt them.

The more relevant question is, can Facebook in 2022 excite people as much as Apple did when riding on the height of the iPod/iTunes craze in 2007?

Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by zenmaster10665 on Thursday October 28, 2021 @04:28PM (#29031479)
You are misunderstanding or wilfully ignoring the details. They talk about interoperability as a key part of how this will become reality, and the fact that no single company can realise this vision...
Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by JKCalhoun on Friday October 29, 2021 @09:53AM (#29038384)
I am misunderstanding then. I am also probably willfully assuming Facebook will continue to operate as they have been — trying to steer all users to their site, keep them engaged on their site.
Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by sverhagen on Thursday October 28, 2021 @03:06PM (#29030193)
LOL? You mean AOL?
Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by JKCalhoun on Friday October 29, 2021 @09:50AM (#29038363)
Both work. ;-)
Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by JumpCrisscross on Thursday October 28, 2021 @05:11PM (#29032052)
> Zuckerberg is as invested in making the "metaverse" the new future of Facebook as Jobs was with Apple and the iPhone

The obvious distinction being Jobs, with his "one more thing," announced an actual product.

Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by schmorptron on Thursday October 28, 2021 @02:28PM (#29029500)
In this case, worse. Definitely worse.
Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by troyvit on Thursday October 28, 2021 @02:49PM (#29029903)
Meta-worse
Re:Facebook Renames to Meta by tomjen3 on Thursday October 28, 2021 @03:06PM (#29030199)
I look forward to that, since maybe I will then know what the hell the metaverse is supposed to be.