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Re:Starship is still not understood by jonathankoren on Thursday October 28, 2021 @01:44PM (#29028842)
I often think of this observation by Bruce Sterling:

> I'll believe in people settling Mars at about the same time I see people setting the Gobi Desert. The Gobi Desert is about a thousand times as hospitable as Mars and five hundred times cheaper and easier to reach. Nobody ever writes "Gobi Desert Opera" because, well, it's just kind of plonkingly obvious that there's no good reason to go there and live. It's ugly, it's inhospitable and there's no way to make it pay. Mars is just the same, really. We just romanticize it because it's so hard to reach.

https://boingboing.net/2004/01/08/sterling-ill-believe.html

Re:Starship is still not understood by greedo on Thursday October 28, 2021 @05:41PM (#29032409)
Though both are probably apocryphal:

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers,"

and:

"640K ought to be enough for anybody."

We're really bad at predicting how things will change. Who would have thought that Tim Berners-Lee would be a link in a chain to Donald Trump's election?

Re:Starship is still not understood by marktangotango on Thursday October 28, 2021 @01:57PM (#29029012)
Gobi desert doesn't have 1/3 earth gravity.
Re:Starship is still not understood by wildermuthn on Thursday October 28, 2021 @02:18PM (#29029324)
What are the economic benefits of low gravity? If so, would the moon be more economically valuable than Mars?

I’m genuinely curious about the economics of doing more in space than putting up satellites.

Re:Starship is still not understood by nine_k on Thursday October 28, 2021 @07:51PM (#29033574)
1/6th of Earth gravity is even better.

Short term: a wonderful tourist attraction. You can nearly fly.

Long term: people with muscular / bone disabilities who cannot withstand Earth gravity. An interesting retiring home (for a narrow wealthy set, of course).

Re:Starship is still not understood by jonathankoren on Friday October 29, 2021 @12:01AM (#29035022)
Who is going to pay to fly these sickly retirees to the moon, and then continuous supply them with resources that are literally free on Earth (ie air)? Medicare?
Re:Starship is still not understood by yetihehe on Friday October 29, 2021 @03:56AM (#29036289)
Moreover, if they struggle with earth gravity, how will they survive launch and landing?
Re:Starship is still not understood by nine_k on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @09:16PM (#29102621)
By using the space elevator, of course!
Re:Starship is still not understood by marktangotango on Friday October 29, 2021 @05:16PM (#29043648)
For a spacefaring civilization reliant upon chemical rockets, less gravity is better. Point being Mars is a better place for such a civilization, not earth.
Re:Starship is still not understood by Sammi on Thursday October 28, 2021 @03:14PM (#29030311)
I mean obviously you need less energy to move things around. We spend an enormous amount of energy to move things around on earth.