Re:Female African elephants are evolving without tusks due t...
by burnished on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @06:01PM
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Nah, looks like natural selection. The article mentions that "The phenomenon of elephants going tuskless is not new. Researchers found the number of tuskless female elephants in Mozambique increased by almost double over 30 years. This overlaps with a period of civil conflict, where armed forces slaughtered 90% of the elephant population to produce ivory.". That is a LOT of selection pressure. Also, the African Elephant Specialist Group (AfESG) [1] published a graph of elephant populations, the reduction in total numbers is pretty dramatic. You might liken this to the way that humans in small, isolated communities will also start to differentiate in a hurry (forex, that one blue family).
Re:Female African elephants are evolving without tusks due t...
by tim-- on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @06:27PM
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I mean this honestly, but what is the blue family that you are talking about. The first thing that springs to mind is Avatar, and Google isn't helping me out.
Re:Female African elephants are evolving without tusks due t...
by ricktdotorg on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @07:10PM
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Re:Female African elephants are evolving without tusks due t...
by q1w2 on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @06:05PM
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A point evolution event can happen extremely rapidly if there's a clearly selective mortality event.
If a new predator is introduced to a population that selectively kills only certain traits, that mutation can become dominant in the population within just one or two generations.
Imagine if aliens came to Earth and killed everyone over 5'6" tall. That "evolution" would be essentially instantaneous.
Re:Female African elephants are evolving without tusks due t...
by cperciva on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @07:32PM
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That evolution would still take multiple generations, since a 5'5 father and a 5'5 mother will have a 5'8 son on average.
Re:Female African elephants are evolving without tusks due t...
by formercoder on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @05:57PM
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Seems like the relative death rates of tusked vs tuskless would matter. Remember the 32% is a percent potentially on a small number. Say to an extreme 99% of tusked elephants were killed, 99% of tuskless were unharmed. If tuskless is a genetic traight, it takes over very quickly even though total population size is smaller.
Re:Female African elephants are evolving without tusks due t...
by psyfi on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @06:03PM
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Exactly that!
I think it is ridiculous to think that more elephant are born without tusks as a kind of "random selection" or even adaption
Re:Female African elephants are evolving without tusks due t...
by imtringued on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @06:00PM
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What do you mean by quick? Evolution is just random mutations. You're basically trying to diversify and spread risk. If there is huge selective pressure only a handful of genes will survive and when they reproduce they will be over represented compared to the previous generation.
It makes me suspect there's something else going on here that's not just good old natural selection.
Have they done any tracking to confirm the tuskless elephants are actually being born to tuskless mothers? Or could it be that the parents are actually affecting the way their offspring are born in some lamarckian-esque sense? If there'd be some trick animals can pull to change their offspring in some ways, that ought to be highly effective for long term species survival and should thus be highly selected for.