Many white students lied about their race to improve chances of admission

Re:Many white students lied about their race to improve chan... by johan12345 on Wednesday October 27, 2021 @08:43AM (#29012534)

So in order to eliminate unlawful discrimination people constantly need to communicate their ethnic background when applying for a job and employers keep track on that stuff? Are they also required to hire from each ethic minority, not the person with the best merits? Why not just skip the ethnic bookkeeping and make the workplace attractive to everyone instead? (same goes for universities)

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Re:Many white students lied about their race to improve chan... by esrauch on Monday November 01, 2021 @10:10PM (#29076038)

It's not like the problem is that Harvard is "unattractive" to minorities.

The thing is that if someone goes to Harvard, their children are more likely to succeed. It's effectively an inheritable benefit; it's just not actually just that "people X did Y they deserve Z"; but what do you want to set up for people who will be born 5 or 10 years from today; do you want it to be the case that you can statistically predict the success of one of those future-children will just be less, and the reason why can be directly tracked back to historical overt racism?

Obviously tons of people are uncomfortable with affirmative action (which isn't as severe as your reductive description makes it); if you have literally any other way to reduce the measurable racial-based disadvantages that exist in our society there's a ton of people who would be very eager to hear it.

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Re:Many white students lied about their race to improve chan... by ernst_10 on Tuesday November 02, 2021 @06:55PM (#29088625)

How do you justify racism against asians, who are the most affected group by these discriminatory policies, when they are often poor and somehow quickly rise with good scores?

Obviously, it's not historical overt racism holding black people behind asian people, it's genetics. The real overt, disgusting racism is "affirmative action".

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Re:Many white students lied about their race to improve chan... by esrauch on Wednesday November 03, 2021 @08:44AM (#29093799)

I really hope you miswrote what you meant or are just a troll, because saying black people are genetically inferior is overt racism right now from you.

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Re:Many white students lied about their race to improve chan... by ernst_10 on Monday November 08, 2021 @12:57PM (#29152082)

No it isn't. Groups of people obviously have different genes. For example, some East Africans are far better at sprinting. Does admitting that make me racist against non-east africans? Do you believe African-Americans dominate basketball due to racism against non African-Americans?

Racism is about treating people like racial caricatures instead of individuals. Which is what you're doing.

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