It’s Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones and the TouchPad

Re:It’s Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones and the TouchPad by brudgers on Thursday August 18, 2011 @03:56PM (#2900810)

I don't see Apple heading into the enterprise market. Anything they sell to enterprise is just a bonus - their model remains to sell devices with a three year support lifecycle and no concern for legacy systems and backward compatibility.

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Re:It’s Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones and the TouchPad by pohl on Thursday August 18, 2011 @04:01PM (#2900840)

I don't see Apple heading into the enterprise market.

Announced about a month ago...

http://www.apple.com/business/vpp/

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Re:It’s Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones and the TouchPad by sunchild on Thursday August 18, 2011 @08:57PM (#2901778)

I've reviewed the iOS Volume Purchase Program in some detail recently. It's not "enterprise" in any sense that I would use that word. To me, enterprise solutions means tightly coupled service and support, and negotiable terms/pricing. iOS VPP is a take it or leave it proposition.

I don't blame Apple for ignoring enterprise customers: they're usually a huge pain in the ass to deal with, and rarely have a clear idea of what they actually want. They engage suppliers just to have "a neck to choke" when things inevitably fall apart.

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Re:It’s Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones and the TouchPad by chrisbolt on Thursday August 18, 2011 @09:44PM (#2901882)

The iOS VPP is for purchasing apps that are most likely not made by Apple. How could they provide support or negotiate pricing for something made by someone else?

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Re:It’s Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones and the TouchPad by sunchild on Thursday August 18, 2011 @10:13PM (#2901935)

That's my point: it's not a traditional "enterprise" market. Neither price (what you pay to Apple) nor terms are negotiable. There is a certain amount of "support" involved, via the App Store approval/appeal process and transaction dispute handling, etc.

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Re:It’s Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones and the TouchPad by yardie on Friday August 19, 2011 @07:33AM (#2902979)

That's not enterprise that's just them saying you can create your own walled-garden inside our walled-garden and we'll show you how.

They aren't trying to run your enterprise for you, which is what a lot of ERP systems claim to do.

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Re:It’s Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones and the TouchPad by barista on Thursday August 18, 2011 @04:06PM (#2900867)

Ofcourse apple will want to enter enterprise. They want to fuel their future growth somehow and enterprise is much more willing to give apple a shot than before. Microsoft should be worried about this which has traditionally had a stronghold on enterprise.

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Re:It’s Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones and the TouchPad by spitfire on Thursday August 18, 2011 @05:09PM (#2901095)

Steve Jobs got burnt badly by the enterprise market with NeXT. Look up enterprise object framework sometime.

Apple is clearly going after the enterprise market on their terms, and their terms alone.

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Re:It’s Official: HP Kills Off webOS Phones and the TouchPad by gamble on Thursday August 18, 2011 @08:48PM (#2901764)

Exactly. Apple can't go after the enterprise market in the way Microsoft or Oracle do without sacrificing the soul of the company. It's the converse of the reason that Microsoft does so poorly in the new consumer electronics markets.

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