Re:New language features since Java 8 to 17
by jmfldn on Sunday October 24, 2021 @04:39PM
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It's not in decline imho, it has settled as middle ranking language in terms of popularity and is v popular in its niche. It depends where you are of course but in London it's used in loads of places from major corporations to startups. The market is hot.
Re:New language features since Java 8 to 17
by frant-hartm on Monday October 25, 2021 @12:41AM
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I used to contract in London, I still occasionally get info about contracts from recruiters, Kotlin largely replaced Scala, compared to 5 years ago.
Re:New language features since Java 8 to 17
by jmfldn on Monday October 25, 2021 @08:04AM
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Kotlin is growing for sure on the server side. Far from replacing it though.
Re:New language features since Java 8 to 17
by pjmlp on Sunday October 24, 2021 @04:57PM
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Dominant outside Android?
Keep dreaming, where is the KVM implementation by JetBrains?
Yeah right they had to reboot it.
Re:New language features since Java 8 to 17
by RhodesianHunter on Sunday October 24, 2021 @10:47PM
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Kotlin is in frequent use on the backend in many places, including Amazon and Google.
Re:New language features since Java 8 to 17
by pjmlp on Monday October 25, 2021 @03:53AM
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Just like any JVM guest language since Beanshell, and all lumped together are a tiny dot on JVM deployment world wide.
Google is Kotlin's godfather, naturally they are using it, just like Amazon with their own Android flavour.
Scala has been declining steadily for a decade now, and Scala 3 is going to precipitate this state of affairs by splitting the shrinking community even further.
Kotlin, on the other hand, has done nothing but grow for the past five years, no doubt helped by Google's formidable support for it. I just took a quick look at one of its Slack channels, "getting-started", and it has over 38,000 people on it. And that's just one channel among dozens more.
I don't think Java's latest additions are anywhere near threatening Kotlin's rise to dominance since Java is moving at a very slow pace, by design, while Kotlin supports some features and design directions that will never happen in Java.