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Re:Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker by ptx on Sunday October 24, 2021 @01:38PM (#28980163)
What if you repeatedly fail to anonymize the information and also collect user-entered data like command line arguments?

https://github.com/dotnet/sdk/issues/6145

Re:Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker by cromka on Sunday October 24, 2021 @01:54PM (#28980308)
Well, you make my point. What you linked to is definitely not telemetry.
Re:Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker by ptx on Monday October 25, 2021 @05:11AM (#28985856)
So is your point that what Microsoft is doing is in fact spyware and not technically "telemetry", since what I linked to is what they are actually doing? In that case, to avoid confusion, we should stop referring to it as telemetry.
Re:Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker by cromka on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @07:34PM (#29007799)
Yes, agreed. In that example, that was spyware, but calling "telemetry" spyware by default is wrong.
Re:Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker by marcosdumay on Sunday October 24, 2021 @09:16PM (#28983537)
> What you linked to is definitely not telemetry.

So, the OP was correct in calling it just spyware?

Why do people jump into defending corporations that repeatedly abuse their customers when they do unknowable hidden actions?

Re:Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker by cromka on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @07:35PM (#29007807)
We're not defending any company here, don't twist my words. I am saying "telemetry" is not spyware, if it actually serves its purpose. Companies abusing "telemetry" to extract more information than they should is a different story.
Re:Microsoft no longer signs Windows drivers for Process Hacker by sangnoir on Sunday October 24, 2021 @03:17PM (#28981009)
I disagree - they are correct because once collected, the data is fed into a blackbox, and a user has no way of knowing if the data collected is - by your definition - spyware or telemetry. The beat way to treat this Schrodinger's telemetry, is to assume it's spyware.