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Re:Google digital advertising antitrust litigation [pdf] by amelius on Sunday October 24, 2021 @09:42AM (#28977805)
> Google throttles the load time of non-AMP ads by giving them artificial one-second delays in order to give Google AMP a “nice comparative boost.”

That's it. Webmasters should give all visitors with a Chrome user agent a loading penalty of 1 second and a popup saying that the website runs faster on Firefox.

I said it before on HN, but the idea was condemned, and I partially agreed, but now it seems (at least to me) a fully justifiable strategy to make users win back power.

Re:Google digital advertising antitrust litigation [pdf] by username190 on Sunday October 24, 2021 @10:44AM (#28978376)
IMO Action should be taken against Google here, not the average user (about 70% of whom use Chrome).

Throttling based on user agent (Firefox, WebKit Safari, etc) would be a bad thing if you ran YouTube and wanted to encourage people to use Chrome - it would likewise be bad if you ran a website like HN.

Users have power when they have control - Google is taking that away, and that's why antitrust legislation makes sense. But users lose power when their choice of browser (in a market where there are only 2-3 choices) makes their web experience artificially worse.

Re:Google digital advertising antitrust litigation [pdf] by amelius on Sunday October 24, 2021 @11:42AM (#28978954)
Then consider the 1 second delay as an advertisement for consumer power. Google/YouTube annoys users with similar or even longer delays all the time. So I don't think you can see this as an "action against the user", unless you consider all non-user-tracking advertisements as an action against the user.

Also, the campaign can stop when Chrome and Firefox reach an equal user-base. So "the user losing freedom of choice of browser" is also not a strong argument.

Yes, it's sad that this seems necessary, but you can't fight corporate evilness with just goodwill. In a sense, this is somewhat similar to the paradox of tolerance [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

Re:Google digital advertising antitrust litigation [pdf] by indodima on Sunday October 24, 2021 @04:46PM (#28981742)
Nice link!
Re:Google digital advertising antitrust litigation [pdf] by magicalist on Sunday October 24, 2021 @03:38PM (#28981183)
> Webmasters should give all visitors with a Chrome user agent a loading penalty of 1 second and a popup saying that the website runs faster on Firefox

it's for ads:

> Google throttles the load time of non-AMP ads by giving them artificial one-second delays

so would need to limit the +1 second for ads to be equivalent, but you could just run "ads" for ad blockers instead :)

Re:Google digital advertising antitrust litigation [pdf] by collinmanderson on Monday October 25, 2021 @07:29PM (#28994522)
More info on 1-second delay when discussed last year:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25449389

It started as a 1-second delay for all ads, but then they found a technical way to allow for ads made with AMP to load sooner.