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Re:A cautionary tale from the streets of San Francisco by ZeroGravitas on Sunday October 24, 2021 @07:05AM (#28976754)
> Much like we failed to transplant modern way of life to Afghanistan.

Which attempt are you talking about. The 3 times the British empire invaded, the three times the Soviet Union invaded or the latest Nato-American invasion.

(Historically there was the Sikh, Mugal, Muslim invasions too, etc. etc.)

Possibly the locals got a poor view of western "civilization" by being on the wrong end of its armies multiple times.

Strangely, I agree with your general point, but possibly from the opposite direction.

For example, when Finland was doing its equivalent of the New Deal, I find it unlikely there were any Finn's that would try to use that as political leverage to delay anti-lynching laws and vice-versa.

Racists seem to be one of the most corrosively self-defeating forces in human society.

Re:A cautionary tale from the streets of San Francisco by saargrin on Monday October 25, 2021 @03:34AM (#28985304)
Regarding Afghanistan, you forget to mention that part of history where Afghanis raided and conquered large parts of what is now India (the Durani empire and Babur come to mind) , not to mention raiding into Persia and Merv

Its hard to pretend Afghanis' view of "civilization" was formed by the British "invasion" which was not permanent

Re:A cautionary tale from the streets of San Francisco by ZeroGravitas on Monday October 25, 2021 @08:15AM (#28986915)
Excellent additional detail, but not sure how it interacts with my point?

I think someone invading you (3 times) is highly likely to give you an opinion about them and their ideals, even if they fail, but maybe the Afghanis are a bit more "forgive and forget" than most.