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Re:20Y study finds little evidence religiosity leads to grea... by LatteLazy on Saturday October 23, 2021 @06:29PM (#28973002)
Except that problem is already solved by a bunch of things like empathy and reputation.

The point of religion is to solve civilisation wide coordination dilemmas like war. How do you get people to kill and die for strangers?

Religion's purpose is to get people to do horrible things not to behave nicely. It's used for wars mostly (plus genocides etc).

That's why we no longer need it. If we were fighting a ground war against a dangerous invading force it would be socially useful. But we're not.

This is also why religion has only flourished in places with exactly those issues (Iran, Afghanistan, Palestine recently).

Unless the plan for solving climate change is to convince x% of people to kill themselves, religion won't help with that any more than it helps with poverty or crime.

Re:20Y study finds little evidence religiosity leads to grea... by version_five on Saturday October 23, 2021 @06:36PM (#28973056)
I think your analysis is spot on. With respect to the last part though:

> Unless the plan for solving climate change is to convince x% of people to kill themselves, religion won't help with that any more than it helps with poverty or crime.

Climate religion basically is telling people they need to go without the comforts of modern society (and generally live in some sort of centrally controlled societal construct that minimizes individual rights) in the name of some eternal paradise. It's not quite as severe as sending people to their deaths, but it's the same idea of convincing people to act against their own interests (and to let the priests continue to do what they want in the name of spreading the word) in order to fulfill some divine purpose.

(I should add as a sibling post did, I believe there are many positive points to religion as well, I'm responding to your post that essentially addresses religion as a coercion (sp?) mechanism

Re:20Y study finds little evidence religiosity leads to grea... by jkhdigital on Saturday October 23, 2021 @07:46PM (#28973513)
Meanwhile, the largest mass exterminations of humanity in the 20th century were carried out by regimes that expressly forbid the open practice of most religions.

Your view that religion is only really used to motivate war is incredibly shallow and I encourage you to broaden your horizons on this subject.

Re:20Y study finds little evidence religiosity leads to grea... by agumonkey on Saturday October 23, 2021 @06:34PM (#28973035)
you're reducing religion to its dark spots, and I'm not religious..

we all have existential crysis, deep fear, doubts, dilemmas. These questions are also in religion, now religion was probably a huge pile of everything from existence, to social life, morality, sexuality and family and yeah converting / conquering other people or other faiths.

You don't go to church to gather weapons but to marry, celebrate birth and grieve death.

Re:20Y study finds little evidence religiosity leads to grea... by azth on Saturday October 23, 2021 @09:23PM (#28974038)
> Religion's purpose is to get people to do horrible things not to behave nicely. It's used for wars mostly (plus genocides etc).

Flat out false.

> Philip and Axelrod’s three-volume Encyclopedia of Wars, which chronicles some 1,763 wars that have been waged over the course of human history. Of those wars, the authors categorize 123 as being religious in nature, which is an astonishingly low 6.98% of all wars.