Re:Leaving Google
by burntoutfire on Saturday October 23, 2021 @10:23AM
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Without growth, the only way to get promoted is to get a spot of some higher-up who left the company (or retired/died). Whereas, in growing companies, there are new senior/management positions created all the time, to account for the growth - so, getting promoted is easier.
Ambitious, hard working people like promotions, so they gravitate towards growing companies and not stale companies.
Re:Leaving Google
by DubiousPusher on Saturday October 23, 2021 @11:43AM
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> Ambitious, hard working people like promotions
Ambitious maybe (though that's nearly the definition of ambitious). Hardworking, not necessarily. I know a cement guy that you have never in your life worked a harder day than who has never received a promotion nor even sought one.
Ambition and hard work are hardly the same thing. Many people work hard at their job, are paid a good wage, and are satisfied with their job, rather than constantly seeking a promotion. Constant promotion seeking isn’t admirable, it’s just greed.
Am I the only one who thinks this sounds a lot like how pyramid schemes work?
So is there anything to be done about it? How to avoid companies being compelled to seek growth always, to the detriment of their internal functioning/culture?
As far as I can tell, don’t go public or be a regulated utility.
> There are companies out there, private ones, where their customers are happy, their employees are happy (most of the time) and their retention is high.
Companies that aren't growing? I meet A LOT of companies (about ~50 or so a year) and I can tell you there is massive difference between the distressed ones and the ones who are growing. btw - even 2~5% growth is fine, it doesn't need to be 25% google scale growth...but flat or declining is bad.
There are plenty of small private companies that more or less plod along year after year--small consultancies and the like. You're not going to have the level of compensation and opportunities you have at a large profitable growing public firm but you may be OK with that. Obviously declines are bad and, in any case, compensation will probably be a fraction of Google etc.
There are companies out there, private ones, where their customers are happy, their employees are happy (most of the time) and their retention is high.