Imagine teaching your grandpa how to use Tor.

Do you really have to? It could be as simple as using a different browser (and waiting for a minute or two after startup).

> Because republicans don't need or care for free anonymous speech, or social networks, since we typically have large networks of real-in-life friends.

I would be interested in seeing data to back up these assertions.

Given how frequently some conservative news sources complain about things like cancel culture and how many conservative social networks have sprung up in the past few years, I'd guess that you're wrong. It seems like some conservatives really do care about social networks, whether those networks are anonymous or not.

Maybe if you live in California, but I grew up in "the southern states" where "cancel culture" and censorship have been the norm for decades, for people who aren't conservatives.

Conservatives living in million dollar+ mansions crying about being critiqued on Twitter don't know real cancel culture.

Trump's and the Right's temper tantrum against social media platforms long predate Covid lockdowns. It started when conservative users went so far over the edge that no one could deny they were violating a site's TOS anymore and a handful of long overdue bans started coming out. Of course, those actions were all carefully crafted to placate the outcry without jeopardizing too much revenue.

Do churches not have zoom meetings and email lists? Genuinely asking, as I'm not religious but my understanding is that remote worship is a pretty well-solved problem in abrahamic religion- radio, tv, mailing lists, zoom, etc.

You're talking about Abrahamic so I'll chime in. For Muslims, remote worship is still not broadly accepted. Its better to do the prayers with your family or people you live with rather than doing it with a screen.

However, remote discussions and teaching is okay. Not prayers or worship of God though.

I'm talking catholic which explicitly and unequivocally differentiates between remote and in person. Remote mass and communion is not possible period

Well as a Catholic, no. Mass is not valid via virtual 'remote' anything.

Mailing lists? Sure. But mailing lists are run by google or other companies. Most people just text or call or tell people stuff using their mouths and ears

I mean given the poster I was responding to was talking about facebook groups I figure that "this is run by a company" is already done with.

> Well as a Catholic, no. Mass is not valid via virtual 'remote' anything.

I'm not Catholic, but when I google "Catholic mass zoom" I see a ton of stuff. Is there like a religious leadership/doctrine these are against or something?

Catholic mass is about receiving the eucharist. You can broadcast the mass but it's watching a TV show not getting a sacrament.

… are you under the impression liberals DON'T have that too?