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Re:Tesla is outrunning the supply chain crunch by Hamuko on Thursday October 21, 2021 @02:39PM (#28949101)
>Can't get Continental radar hardware anymore? Tesla updates their vehicle software to use vision only.

Doesn't that just mean that I'm getting a shittier car with corners cut out?

Re:Tesla is outrunning the supply chain crunch by ggreer on Thursday October 21, 2021 @05:57PM (#28951313)
No. Newer versions of Tesla's software disable the radar on cars that shipped with it.[1] Vision has gotten so much better (thanks in part to training from radar data) that radar adds noise to their model of the outside world. Andrej Karpathy explained the issues in a talk this summer.[2]

1. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1447588987317547014

2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6bOwQdCJrc&t=589s

Re:Tesla is outrunning the supply chain crunch by mattlondon on Thursday October 21, 2021 @03:02PM (#28949380)
But you get the car. Some manufacturers have simply shut down production while they wait for parts to become available.
Re:Tesla is outrunning the supply chain crunch by Hamuko on Thursday October 21, 2021 @03:05PM (#28949420)
But at some point it stops being the car that I ordered as they strip parts from it. Arguably it stops being the car that I ordered the moment they decide to start taking stuff out of it.
Re:Tesla is outrunning the supply chain crunch by toomuchtodo on Thursday October 21, 2021 @03:18PM (#28949590)
You're buying the final product, not specific components when you place your order. As long as it functions as advertised and meets warranty requirements, it is what you were sold.

At least in the case of my Model Y, I was given the option to decline my order as it was placed before the vision transition [1], so there is disclosure and the ability to opt out.

[1] https://www.tesla.com/support/transitioning-tesla-vision

Re:Tesla is outrunning the supply chain crunch by rdtwo on Thursday October 21, 2021 @03:06PM (#28949438)
Yes but that doesn’t show up in the quarterly numbers