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Re:Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found securit... by unsui on Thursday October 21, 2021 @02:00PM (#28948461)
> This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place

What you're doing is called "pearl clutching", and is not adding in any constructive way to the conversation.

The way we got here is intentionally by using divisive rhetoric to ellicit "engagement". Traditionally, this has been used politically by identifying wedge issues with the explicit intention to divide people along belief borders.

This has been accelerated and amplified n-fold via social media. Engagement is a proxy for divisive rhetoric, as that is what algorithmically produces the most engagement, thereby triggering the reward function(s).

The cat's out of the bag. Its too late to go back and say "but what about the kids?" etc, (especially since there is so much overwhelming evidence that these themselves are simply rhetorical devices to push a particular argumnent or point of view).

We know these arguments are not in good faith, so why should we give them that due process and respect?

Cut the BS.

Re:Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found securit... by dang on Thursday October 21, 2021 @02:33PM (#28948991)
Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar hell. It's not what this site is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re:Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found securit... by thesagan on Thursday October 21, 2021 @02:02PM (#28948485)
Be nice. Golden rule. Don’t call bullshit on people honestly trying to have a dialogue in good faith. That’s divisive.
Re:Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found securit... by Afforess on Thursday October 21, 2021 @02:08PM (#28948587)
Can you explain which of abvdasker's, hackerswords's, unsui's posts were not nice? I sincerely want to know, so I can argue against you further without being "unnice".
Re:Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found securit... by thesagan on Thursday October 21, 2021 @02:10PM (#28948618)
“Cut the bs” paints someone as a bad faith conversationalist.

You can reply to that but I think I’ve said my part.

Re:Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found securit... by Afforess on Thursday October 21, 2021 @02:14PM (#28948687)
I was not trying to bait you - thanks for a clear answer.
Re:Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found securit... by DiggyJohnson on Thursday October 21, 2021 @02:21PM (#28948793)
You’re throwing away your whole point with your last two comments. You started off productive, partisan, yet clear in your convictions (a good thing).

The person that replied to you showed you the gratitude of civilized disagreement and discussion. Then you got mad and unproductive.

I agree with every word of your first comment, but make no mistake about what happened here.

Re:Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found securit... by VRay on Thursday October 21, 2021 @02:03PM (#28948509)
I wouldn't mind if this flame war got a little less engagement from some of its participants, personally
Re:Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found securit... by GoblinSlayer on Thursday October 21, 2021 @02:13PM (#28948665)
It's futile to hope for anything constructive before destruction of polarization.