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Re:Tesla's German plant hits snag as public consultation rep... by V__ on Thursday October 21, 2021 @09:51AM (#28944358)
Personally, I find it more likely that some executives thought they could skirt some regulations because they are creating jobs and local officials will look the other way or make some exception. At least that is the impression one often gets when looking how things get done in the US.
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Re:Tesla's German plant hits snag as public consultation rep... by lm28469 on Thursday October 21, 2021 @10:11AM (#28944673)
> they are creating jobs

As I understand they'll mostly be filled by the polish workforce, they didn't built it so close to the border for no reason.

https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/en/building-delays-at-tesla-...

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Re:Tesla's German plant hits snag as public consultation rep... by credit_guy on Thursday October 21, 2021 @10:22AM (#28944844)
But just for clarity, this is completely legal, isn't it? Polish people have the right to work in the EU, like all the other EU residents, or not?
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Re:Tesla's German plant hits snag as public consultation rep... by nicoburns on Thursday October 21, 2021 @10:29AM (#28944950)
Yes, but it may not bring enough goodwill for regulators to ignore other things they are doing which may be illegal which was the suggestion up-thread.
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Re:Tesla's German plant hits snag as public consultation rep... by _Microft on Thursday October 21, 2021 @10:24AM (#28944884)
Yes, this is one of the freedoms [0] of the European Single Market, in particular this one [1].

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Single_Market#%22Four...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Single_Market#Free_mo...

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Re:Tesla's German plant hits snag as public consultation rep... by TAForObvReasons on Thursday October 21, 2021 @10:25AM (#28944893)
The playbook in the US is to argue that a factory will create US jobs. State and local governments are willing to play ball with the expectation of increased activity and taxes.

Building a plant on the US-Mexico border will not be seen as kindly if it's perceived that they are not using US labor.

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Re:Tesla's German plant hits snag as public consultation rep... by pzduniak on Thursday October 21, 2021 @11:08AM (#28945549)
The article that you linked mentions Polish _construction_ workers. I honestly doubt the areas next to the border would get you enough workforce to get you a mostly Polish staff - the border is 50min away and the closest cities are relatively tiny.

Or maybe the math somehow works out, but I doubt it.

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Re:Tesla's German plant hits snag as public consultation rep... by lm28469 on Thursday October 21, 2021 @11:16AM (#28945643)
The math works very well when you know Polish wages, just like people living close to Switzerland (ie <2h commute) still go there en masse, doubling or tripling your salary is very attractive for most people.

https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/cache/digpub/eumove/bloc-2c.ht...

> In 2019, the largest number of cross-border workers among the Member States were for those living in Poland and working in Germany (122 000 people)

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Re:Tesla's German plant hits snag as public consultation rep... by esemor on Thursday October 21, 2021 @10:35AM (#28945055)
I am in no way a Musk apologist but the polish workforce you are refering to is the construction workers.
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Re:Tesla's German plant hits snag as public consultation rep... by lm28469 on Thursday October 21, 2021 @11:08AM (#28945550)
Yes, for now, because that's all they need, but when they start looking for low/middle skilled workers I wouldn't be surprised if the mast majority of them will be Polish workers
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