Evidence for European presence in the Americas in AD 1021

Re:Evidence for European presence in the Americas in AD 1021 by munk-a on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @07:31PM (#28938231)

There were norse settlments all over the place - Russia, Normandy, Lower and Central Germany, England (the Danelaw was a thing for a while), Ireland and, famously, Byzantium.

For settling uninhabited locales you've got Shetland, Mann, the Isles, Iceland and some seasonal settlements on Greenland.

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Re:Evidence for European presence in the Americas in AD 1021 by gremloni on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @08:40PM (#28938797)

Byzantium? I would love some reading material on that.

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Re:Evidence for European presence in the Americas in AD 1021 by acjohnson55 on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @08:52PM (#28938894)

Here's a short podcast series that talks about the Normans, including Bohemond, who set up a crusader state in Antioch, which had been Byzantine territory not long before: https://normancenturies.com/

You might also check out the podcast History of Byzantium. Although you'll have to go many hours before encountering the Norse, in the form of the Varangians.

And I also recommend the excellent book Children of Ash and Elm for a very recent overview of Viking history.

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Re:Evidence for European presence in the Americas in AD 1021 by gremloni on Thursday October 21, 2021 @01:01AM (#28940484)

Awesome, thank you.

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Re:Evidence for European presence in the Americas in AD 1021 by AnimalMuppet on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @08:55PM (#28938920)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varangians#Byzantine_Empire

It's not much, but it's a start.

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Re:Evidence for European presence in the Americas in AD 1021 by acjohnson55 on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @08:47PM (#28938860)

Don't forget Southern Italy and Sicily!

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Re:Evidence for European presence in the Americas in AD 1021 by munk-a on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @11:14PM (#28939784)

Hrm - I'd avoided including those because the Normans were sooooorta not what you'd call Vikings at that point - but yup those Normans got everywhere.

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Re:Evidence for European presence in the Americas in AD 1021 by acjohnson55 on Saturday October 23, 2021 @04:48AM (#28966753)

I mentioned it because you said Norse, and while I'd agree that the Normans weren't vikings (the Viking Age is typically bookended by the Norman conquest of England in 1066), I would definitely consider them Norse.

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