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Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by mbg721 on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:11PM (#28922277)
Vision checks have also changed a lot in the last five years or so. I have a pretty strong prescription and always used to do rounds of reading charts and "A or B", and now there's a machine that scans my eyes and gets it very close to right, with an adjustment or two at the end.
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by dr_dshiv on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:17PM (#28922370)
12 years ago, I walked into a second hand eye glasses shop in India and they had one of these machines. It was amazingly effective. I felt duped by all the optometrist appointments asking me about A or B.
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by fn-mote on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @05:35PM (#28924073)
To me, the tradeoff of an expensive modern machine vs an cheaper iterative process seems logical. I think it's funny that a second hand shop has the fancy equipment... but they must know it sells glasses more effectively.

Here, the machine results are used as a starting point, validated by A/B but I don't know if the human part is effective or just theater.

Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by dr_dshiv on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @05:46PM (#28924188)
Well, assuming the optometrist charges around $50 per hour, after 10 patients it would pay for itself. I assume the machine is simply cheaper, which is why it was used.
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by mixmastamyk on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:25PM (#28922471)
Duped, because they are doing it the old-fashioned way?
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by dr_dshiv on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:53PM (#28922858)
Because they are making theater to justify their cost.
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by comeonseriously on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @04:43PM (#28923503)
Did the machine tell you if anything else was wrong with your eyes? Could it?
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by dr_dshiv on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @05:44PM (#28924171)
It could determine my index accurately. It couldn’t tell if I had symptomless eye cancer, however.
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by jtwaleson on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:53PM (#28922864)
Eye exams are not easy or one size fits all. The machine does objective refraction, which is a different and more error prone method than subjective refraction. Also for multifocals you'll need a more tailored prescription. There's definitely progress in autorefractors though!
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by forbiddenvoid on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:21PM (#28922428)
This machine is not new. I remember it being used to approximate my prescription when I joined the US Army almost 20 years ago.
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by balls187 on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @04:47PM (#28923555)
They can now check ocular pressure without the puff!
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by ro_bit on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @04:57PM (#28923667)
That's amazing! The puff is soooo uncomfortable! Is the technology to do this widespread?
Re:The FDA wants you to be able to buy a hearing aid without... by balls187 on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @01:10AM (#28926976)
It looks like it is becoming more common place.

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