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Re:Show HN: Datree (YC W20): Prevent K8s misconfigurations f... by nonameiguess on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @01:31PM (#28920900)
The problem is right here in the blurb. It's not that k8s itself is complex. Ops is complex. Companies used to have entire dedicated IT departments full of sysadmins, storage engineers, network engineers, and security engineers with decades of experience configuring, deploying, maintaining, and monitoring servers, networks, hypervisors, and data centers.

Newer companies just push this onto their application developers, expecting them to figure this stuff out on top of being developers, "full-stack" now meaning you need to understand everything down to filesystems, overlay networks, container runtimes. This is not a reasonable expectation. Nobody can be an expert in everything.

Of course, I'm not sure full automation can really replace human expertise, either.

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Re:Show HN: Datree (YC W20): Prevent K8s misconfigurations f... by romanlab on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @01:42PM (#28921057)
It's true that a developer can't be an expert in every aspect of the stack but that's where services like Datree or many of AWS' services for example come in, they bring the domain expertise and require the developer to only be familiar with the subject. The experts moved to be domain experts, working for the companies that develop the tools.

You don't really need a resident storage expert in every company, since most companies have similar needs.

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Re:Show HN: Datree (YC W20): Prevent K8s misconfigurations f... by exdsq on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @02:30PM (#28921620)
But suddenly you need to keep up with a ton of different tools and if they break you either dig into the topic or you're f**ed. This is such a productivity killer it's crazy.
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