AWS is playing chess, Cloudflare is playing Go

Re:AWS is playing chess, Cloudflare is playing Go by prirun on Monday October 18, 2021 @09:52AM (#28905432)

(Author of Hashbackup)

  B2 pricing is 0.5 cents/GB/mo, R2 is 1.5 cents/GB/mo.
  B2 egress is 1 cents/GB/mo with 1GB/day free, R2 is free.

If your cloud storage is for backups, B2 is likely to be less expensive because backups are rarely downloaded and their 1GB/day of free egress is enough to do backup maintenance to optimize storage.

Cloudflare's CDN can proxy a B2 bucket to get free egress and maybe faster downloads (haven't needed it myself):

https://help.backblaze.com/hc/en-us/articles/217666928-Using...

I'm a big fan of B2 because:

  - they have low pricing
  - they have simple pricing
  - they don't use gimmicks: minimum storage time, minimum file size, minimum payment per month, etc.

HashBackup was one of the first B2 integrations and I've never had problems with it.

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Re:AWS is playing chess, Cloudflare is playing Go by d3nj4l on Monday October 18, 2021 @10:45AM (#28905953)

Do remember that Cloudlfare's CDN is not meant to serve non-webpage content. They outline it in their ToS; section 2.8 here: https://www.cloudflare.com/terms/

It is unlikely that this same restriction would apply to R2.

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Re:AWS is playing chess, Cloudflare is playing Go by badinfo on Monday October 18, 2021 @11:30AM (#28906471)

Their CEO was on here the other day and said it doesn't apply to R2 or Workers, and that they needed to update their TOS:

> (eastdakota) That limitation doesn’t apply to the R2 service or Workers generally. We’ll update and clarify our ToS. Thanks for flagging!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28683255

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Re:AWS is playing chess, Cloudflare is playing Go by badrabbit on Monday October 18, 2021 @01:16PM (#28907944)

Thank you. I was going to explore usage if R2 or B2 for elasticsearch "cold-index" storage. R2 seems more ideal for better egress.

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Re:AWS is playing chess, Cloudflare is playing Go by mayli on Monday October 18, 2021 @05:32PM (#28912060)

B2 is really good for backups, other providers like scaleway has similar price if not cheaper.

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Re:AWS is playing chess, Cloudflare is playing Go by prirun on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @11:52AM (#28932209)

I just checked, and Scaleway's object store pricing is 0.01 euros/GB/mo (0.012 cents/GB/mo) vs Backblaze at 0.005 cents/GB/mo, so Scaleway is 2.4x more expensive at today's exchange rate: 0.012/0.005 = 2.40

They do have C14 Glacier-like object storage for less, but it also has a unique workflow where data is uploaded to a temporary area, archived 7 days later, has a unique archive id that has to be kept and then used to restore archives back into the temporary area.

I tried to signup for Scaleway's free 75GB/mo account just now, to run some performance tests with HashBackup (I'm the author), but they won't allow creating a bucket until credit card details are entered.

By contrast, Backblaze lets you create a new account w/o credit card info, within the free 10GB limit. You only need a credit card to go past 10GB. They have a big button to click to run free proof-of-concept tests that exceed 10GB.

That's why I'm a B2 fan.

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