Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by izietto on Monday October 18, 2021 @06:31AM
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I see a discussion but it's not too harsh to me. Do you come from a Western country? People coming from Western countries tend to be more demanding about discussion friendliness sometimes for my experience
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Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by HolidayguyNOR on Monday October 18, 2021 @10:19AM
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I agree. There are also huge individual differences. I have a military background and we generally don't "gift wrap" our feedback. "This bad because X" is constructive, helpful and to the point, and it doesn't mean that the person receiving the feedback is incompetent. Some people seem to take it that way.
Accepting failure is integral to learning and growth, but a key part of that is identifying the weak points and learning from them.
Edit: s/gift wrap/sugar coat
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by circularfoyers on Monday October 18, 2021 @06:46AM
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Contrary to both your comment and the parent's, one of the project's developers (not sure they are the main developer, but one of them) admitted in the referenced pull request that they were too harsh in their response to the contribution:
> Now I am rereading my first comment an see that it is too rude. I am sorry for that. I was in a bad mood when wrote this.
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by izietto on Monday October 18, 2021 @06:53AM
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Yep and he apologized as you noticed, so I can't see anything too frightening to me.
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by silicon2401 on Monday October 18, 2021 @09:46AM
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What countries would be less friendly in your experience?
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by izietto on Monday October 18, 2021 @09:51AM
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Let me clarify that I'm not talking about countries and people, I'm talking about language. For example, English language puts "please" every time you are telling someone to do something, in my language (Italian here), you don't do that. If you are not a good English speaker (like me), you suddenly become someone who gives commands to other people in a rude way.
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by a1369209993 on Monday October 18, 2021 @10:31PM
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> English language puts "please" every time you are telling someone to do something
As a native English speaker: no it doesn't. Whoever told you that was gaslighting you, a corporate-politically-correct shitheel, or both. (Or being sarcastic, or cargo-culting something they picked from one of the previous categories, or some other breakdown of communication.)
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by silicon2401 on Monday October 18, 2021 @01:01PM
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> People coming from Western countries tend to be more demanding about discussion friendliness sometimes
> People
I'm a bit confused, are you talking about people and countries or not? In your original comment you explicitly said "people" and "countries"
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by bee_rider on Monday October 18, 2021 @04:11PM
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They are talking about the way people from these countries typically phrase things as a result of their native language, rather than trying to characterize the actual personalities of the people from these countries. We just add more friendly sounding little filler phrases in our speech and often phrase instructions/commands as requests in English. This doesn't make us fundamentally nicer or more reasonable, it is just a social convention.
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by izietto on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @03:57AM
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Thank you for explaining that at my place :) I wasn't even referring to "Western" countries, I mean I come from Italy, which actually is a Western country, and when I read native English speakers I notice many differences that I'll never be able to reproduce
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by silicon2401 on Tuesday October 19, 2021 @09:24AM
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I'm just curious; why did you specifically say western countries, if you didn't mean western countries? Or say people if you didn't mean people?
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by izietto on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @06:10AM
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Because I'm not a good English speaker, I'm sorry about that
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by silicon2401 on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @10:08AM
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You're a great English speaker, which is why it was just confusing since you're clearly able to articulate when you _don't_ mean people and countries.
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by izietto on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @10:18AM
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Well, I appreciate that I can write decently :D but it requires me a lot of effort, my English skills are a source of big troubles at interviews with other countries. Sometimes I just get confused translating and I say something for something else
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by silicon2401 on Wednesday October 20, 2021 @02:02PM
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In fairness to your point, I guess I technically can't comment on your speaking, but your writing is definitely great. I wouldn't have guessed you're not a native speaker. Do you practice speech often? I'm a language learning fan but not a huge fan of talking in any language, so my speech always lags behind my writing in languages I study.
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by izietto on Tuesday October 26, 2021 @04:47AM
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I never practice speech, that's something I should do, but my problem is that I like too much the English language spoken by an Italian person, and also I don't like the English pronounce. That's a strong obstacle to any improvement on English language sounds. I love written English, that's why I can write it, but I just don't like how it sounds, that's why I can't speak it.
Re:OpenMW: Open-source reimplementation of TES3 Morrowind
by HolidayguyNOR on Monday October 18, 2021 @10:21AM
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I'm not GP, but many Asian cultures apparently have a much more blunt culture than many "western" countries.