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Re:The booming business of knitting together the world’s ele... by jillesvangurp on Sunday October 17, 2021 @02:16PM (#28898472)
Exactly. Baseline power is a very poorly and loosely defined term that has no base in reality that people wield to argue against much cheaper renewable energy without actually providing any numbers. "we need unspecified amounts of nuclear, coal, and what not to deal with unspecified capacity loss for an unspecified number of days/months/years while some unspecified apocalyptic circumstances wipe out 100% of all solar and wind power on this planet. As soon as you start specifying any of that it becomes clear that is it pretty easily mitigated otherwise.

Wind power is rarely zero; certainly not everywhere. Solar of course is but at a rather predictable schedule, which is why it is often combined with battery and wind. If you can have extra energy generation, you can charge some batteries. The rest is just math related to how much energy generation and battery capacity you need.

Re:The booming business of knitting together the world’s ele... by heurisko on Sunday October 17, 2021 @03:50PM (#28899221)
I'm the author of the comment. The definition of base load:

    The baseload[1] (also base load) on a grid is the minimum level of demand on an electrical grid over a span of time, for example, one week. 
A renewable system has to meet this minimum demand too, otherwise the lights go out.

> The rest is just math related to how much energy generation and battery capacity you need.

I'm very pro-renewable, but aware of how difficult this is going to be. These are massive social and engineering tasks. For example, to look at the numbers in the UK, we're talking about construction of big new hydroelectric storage stations, or millions of batteries (potentially as EVs). [2]

The need for renewables to provide baseload power demand depends on big infrastructure development. Germany hasn't kept pace with this need, relying on French nuclear instead, which is why I said their Energiewende hasn't always been practical.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_load [2] https://www.withouthotair.com/c26/page_189.shtml

Re:The booming business of knitting together the world’s ele... by labawi on Sunday October 17, 2021 @03:04PM (#28898865)
> very poorly .. defined term .. that people wield to argue

I thought you were exaggerating until I read the sibling comments (thankfully on the bottom).

I'll leave it to them to figure out how serve the maximum demand with the minimum number.