Re:Bonhoeffer on Stupidity
by mbrodersen on Saturday October 16, 2021 @07:31PM
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I am pretty sure I don’t warship anything. Not even logical thinking or reasoning. Nothing is perfect. Everything is flawed or limited in applicability. No human is either 100% good or evil. Everything depends on context. So what is there to worship?
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> Nothing is perfect
If logical thinking is, as you say, imperfect, is it possible that your own conclusion that no perfect things exist is itself an imperfect conclusion? If you use this word perfect, you at least have the Idea of Perfect, even if no perfect things exist. This kind of funny talk I'm using about Ideas of perfect things goes back 2400 years to Plato and his Theory of Forms[1]. According to the philosopher-logician A. N. Whitehead:
The safest general characterization of the European philosophical tradition
is that it consists of a series of footnotes to Plato.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theory_of_forms
Re:Bonhoeffer on Stupidity
by mbrodersen on Thursday October 21, 2021 @06:37PM
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Yep it is fun to think about. Especially when you realise that information is not abstract but physics. I recommend reading the “Constructor Theory of Information” if you haven’t already. It is free online.
> So what is there to worship?
David Bowie.
Re:Bonhoeffer on Stupidity
by mbrodersen on Sunday October 17, 2021 @05:51PM
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That made me smile :-)
Dietrich Bonhoeffer (as I understand him) would undoubtedly say that Jesus Christ is both perfect God and perfect Man, and therefore Jesus Christ is what there is to worship.
Based upon my understanding of him, his allegiance to Jesus Christ is what motivated his actions that resulted in his death at the hands of the Nazis.
edit: typo
Re:Bonhoeffer on Stupidity
by mbrodersen on Saturday October 16, 2021 @08:20PM
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My argument was that I (for one) doesn’t worship Jesus Christ, the Buddha, Ra the sun god, humans, myself or anything else. So the argument that we all worship something is false. Dietrich might have been worshipping a god or humans but that is besides the point.
The term "worship" isn't limited to the worship of any deity alone - as the quote itself indicates. It includes worship of things such as beauty, youthfulness, fame, wealth... or whatever that consumes your thinking
Re:Bonhoeffer on Stupidity
by mbrodersen on Sunday October 17, 2021 @05:50PM
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Agree. And I don’t worship any of those. Which was my original point.