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Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by mkr-hn on Friday October 15, 2021 @04:27PM (#28882769)
I have sufficient resolution on it from people who did watch it and had a wide range of takes on it from "it's not transphobic, don't be a dumbass" to "it wasn't exactly transphobic, but it wasn't good and I understand why people consider the bad jokes transphobic" without subjecting myself to it.

Netflix's reaction is really the main subject of my comment. The way to interpret the show is just not relevant anymore. Netflix made it about Netflix.

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by e40 on Friday October 15, 2021 @05:20PM (#28883243)
More importantly than any of your associates, I have two important data points:

I watched it and it was definitely not transphobic.

Dave's trans female friend that committed suicide, her family supports Dave and says they believe it's not transphobic.

Every single criticism I've seen has been general. None of them, except the ones which take stuff out of context, have specific gripes. That's how you know this is about shutting down debate they don't want to hear.

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by mkr-hn on Friday October 15, 2021 @05:29PM (#28883328)
You'll understand if I weigh the accounts of trans people who watched it over what you, Dave Chapelle, and the family of a trans person who can't speak for herself said.
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by CarelessExpert on Friday October 15, 2021 @06:26PM (#28883853)
You really gotta wonder how Dave would feel if a white person tried to explain to him how a joke he saw as racist wasn't actually racist, and besides, my black friend said it's fine...

There must be some analog to "mansplaining" that fits, here. "Transplaining"? Hmm...

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by mkr-hn on Friday October 15, 2021 @06:29PM (#28883883)
I've seen cissplaining used to good effect.
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by e40 on Friday October 15, 2021 @06:59PM (#28884115)
Before she died she supported Dave, as well.

My main point stands: criticism of his special is too vague. It's almost as if many of the critics never watched the whole thing, having formed an opinion about it early on and stopped watching. I watched the entire thing and it is a single piece. There are no standalone jokes in that special. Every single word is in support of the last words he speaks.

I even watched the special a second time to be sure I hadn't been bamboozled by Dave's wit and charm. I felt even more sure after the 2nd viewing that it's not transphobic.

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by mkr-hn on Friday October 15, 2021 @07:13PM (#28884213)
I am not discussing or interested in this hypothetical person who hasn't watched it but is still commenting as though they did.

To reiterate:

>> "You'll understand if I weigh the accounts of trans people who watched it over what you, Dave Chapelle, and the family of a trans person who can't speak for herself said."

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by dazilcher on Friday October 15, 2021 @09:36PM (#28884906)
Tl;dr: I'm parroting someone else's opinion on a show I didn't watch.
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by donatj on Friday October 15, 2021 @05:24PM (#28883281)
> I have sufficient resolution on it from people who did watch it

Never trust other people's opinions on matters like this.

Other people trust other people trust other people and you get mountains of wrong. Forming an opinion-based purely on other people's opinions is just a form of prejudice.

Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by mkr-hn on Friday October 15, 2021 @05:27PM (#28883309)
My trust is based on cancelling Netflix long ago after a string of stand-up shows full of bigoted jokes. I don't need another data point.
Re:Netflix fires organizer of trans employee walkout by pbak on Saturday October 16, 2021 @08:29PM (#28892882)
Seeing that the last third of the show was a homage by Dave Chappelle to a comedian trans friend of his which committed suicide, maybe you should.