Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Sarandos Says

Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by systemvoltage on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @01:00AM (#28836262)

I am contemplating exactly what is the motivation for me to actively, pick up the proverbial pitch fork, get worked up and go out on a some ideological battle on Twitter? Life is too interesting to waste time on cancel-culture-activism. Cancelling others would guarantee never winning them back again for your cause. Defend your stance not through suppression of others but an irresistable pull to the same appeal that solidified your ideology - whatever that may be. Market your ideas with grace, respect, dignity and honesty. I now feel like religion was a kind of a good idea to keep monsters within all of us in check.

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Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by sofixa on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @08:27AM (#28838848)

Meh, look at it this way:

You saw/heard/etc. something you consider abhorrent ( e.g. shout racial slurs at a teenage footballer, sexually assaulted someone, etc.). You can't believe such people exist, and can't even remotely relate to them. You're pissed, terrified that those people exist and they seem to suffer no consequences for their actions. So what do you do? Good old boycotts.

I think that the whole thing ( "cancel culture" ) is overblown, on both sides of it. There are absolutely terrible people who should just shut up and be deservedly ostracized for their abhorrent actions, but it sometimes goes too far for too little; and on the other hand people who scream "free speech" when a bigot gets fired for shouting racial slurs aren't helping anyone and make themselves look sympathetic to said bigot.

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Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by systemvoltage on Saturday October 16, 2021 @01:23AM (#28885756)

There are a lot of terrible people out there doesn't mean we replace the justice system with sharia-law of Twitter mobs. I am not convinced by your arguments.

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Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by rc2634 on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @08:47AM (#28838985)

Boycotting and demanding bans are not the same thing. Boycotting means simply not engaging with whatever you find offensive. Finding something offensive doesn’t give you the right to demand that it’s banned and removed.

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Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by throwawaysea on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @01:48AM (#28836498)

I share your second guessing about religion and have wondered if losing it will simply lead to it being reinvented. However I am not sure cancel culture activists are looking to win anyone over. It’s more that they want to use fear and consequence to deter and suppress others, in particular to keep them from expressing ideas that oppose their own ideology. The idea is to let the opposing side starve itself out while only your ideas dominate and propagandize the next generation of minds. It’s the same tactic advocated by authoritarians of all political persuasions.

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Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by systemvoltage on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @03:27AM (#28837009)

I was primarily referring to online-activism, but agree with your broader view. I said this a few days ago[1] that I'll be voting for anyone that opposes strong ideological political motifs. If one can't defend their stance with reason and civilized discourse, then I am automatically turned off from that ideology. It's gotta stand the test of debate, science, truth, generally accepted morals, justice and fairness. Mob thinking, poor reasoning and supression needs to be called out and exposed (not supressed).

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28694359

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