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Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by hresvelgr on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:25AM (#28836038)
Mentions to cancel culture always make me remember a particular quote by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: "Distrust those in whom the desire to punish is strong."

It is very sad to me that Daphne (the trans woman who committed suicide) got lynched by the LGBTQ+ community for defending Dave Chappelle because she actually knew him personally and that those jokes were just that, jokes. Having watched the special, I felt really saddened to find out that she had committed suicide. Dave described her with a lot of empathy, love, and tenderness. I cannot begin to imagine being attacked by your own people. Marginalised by an already marginal demographic. Who do you turn to?

In the special, Dave mentions that when he says he doesn't understand the trans experience Daphne replies: "I don't need you to understand me. I need you to believe I'm having a human experience." To me that's not the cry of a trans woman, its the cry of a deeply individual being. An individual not being respected and believed as one. Dave finishes the special by saying that Daphne's people weren't the LGTBQ+ because they had forsaken her, but that she was one of his: a comedian. I think it goes beyond that. Dave and Daphne belong to a group that has no group, the individual. One that in today's era of identity politics will never really be understood or believed.

Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by tptacek on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:26AM (#28836048)
Nobody was lynched, and "the" LGBTQ+ didn't do anything here.
Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by hresvelgr on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:32AM (#28836079)
Perhaps "lynching" was putting it too strongly. I am going off of Dave's take from the special that it was her own people that gave her the most backlash on Twitter.
Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by tptacek on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:35AM (#28836093)
You know who wouldn't have much patience for using that word that way? Dave Chappelle.

I don't know what "her own people" means here, but Dave Chappelle sums Twitter up the way many of his supporters here do as well: "not real".

Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by kyleee on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:40AM (#28836116)
"You know who wouldn't have much patience for using that word that way? Dave Chappelle."

Did you ask him?

Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by tptacek on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:42AM (#28836128)
No, I just watched him make that point repeatedly over the last several specials, notably including this one in the DaBaby bit.
Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by jollybean on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @01:09AM (#28836296)
If some cis groups were to have bullied an LGBTQ person on Twitter to the point where they killed themselves, it would be a national story, and the term 'lynching' would be used by some.

We need the old ACLU back.

Re:Netflix Won’t Take Down Dave Chappelle Special, Ted Saran... by mkr-hn on Friday October 15, 2021 @04:04PM (#28882480)
So we should distrust whoever in Netflix's C-suite keeps firing trans people who criticize it. If you want to be consistent.