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Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by linuxhansl on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:02PM (#28831719)
Good. Due do skewed and unreasonable public opinion it is currently almost impossible to start new nuclear power projects. As a result instead of modern, safe (passive cooling, etc) nuclear plants we're running 30-40 year old, unsafe old timers!

Thorium pellet reactors, et al, are promising technologies for safe and local power generation.

I believe the right answer is a mix of (safe) nuclear, renewables, together with energy storage such as pump hydro storage, can solve our energy needs. Then again, I'm a lay person in this area.

Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by mszyndel on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:07PM (#28831789)
Worth adding that in EU this is largely German public opinion. And somehow the tail wags the dog.
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by q1w2 on Monday October 11, 2021 @05:56PM (#28833551)
Angela Merkel was a disaster in this regard. The nation went collectively insane after Fukushima and she cowed to the public to win the next election rather than try to calm the public ignorance.

Instead, Germany funded Russia's NordGas II pipeline to replace the nuclear power they turned off with gas. Insane stupidity.

Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by joecool1029 on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:55PM (#28834040)
As stupid as this policy was, it wasn't started by Merkel. She just sped it up.

The previous chancellor Schröder, now a foreign Russian energy minister, set the schedule into motion for nuclear shutdown.[1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Schr%C3%B6der#Relation...

Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by a0-prw on Monday October 11, 2021 @11:21PM (#28835716)
No, Germany did not fund Nordstream 2.

"Anglo-Dutch group Royal Dutch Shell, Austria’s OMV, France’s Engie and Germany’s Uniper and Wintershall will each provide loans covering 10 per cent of the €9.5bn cost of the pipeline, with Gazprom providing the remaining 50 per cent."

Source: Financial Times, https://archive.vn/pirwk

Also, clean energy is a long way off and Europeans are still going to have to heat their houses. Personally, I'm happy that we're doing business with Russia, rather than being locked into more expensive, US gas imports.

Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by TedDoesntTalk on Monday October 11, 2021 @11:49PM (#28835851)
> US gas imports

The US has huge natural gas reserves. Are they really importing natural gas?

Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by a0-prw on Monday October 11, 2021 @11:55PM (#28835876)
I mean imports from the US to Europe.

It's a good idea to have multiple suppliers.

IMO, Trump's sanctioning of Nordstream 2 was mostly economic warfare against an ally (Europe), disguised as geoplitical concerns about Russia.

Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by kelsolaar on Monday October 11, 2021 @08:36PM (#28834658)
And they put back up many coal power plants which creates an insane amount of air pollution.
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by dispat0r on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @09:17AM (#28839264)
That's not true. There is an exit strategy for coal in germany and at least for now it's still going. Next year they will shutdown the remaining nuclear plants. That will be the moment of truth.
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by nazka on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:15PM (#28833712)
And continue with their coal mines and turbines too…
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by LargoLasskhyfv on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:53PM (#28834028)
While I concur with the 'disaster', the pipeline thing seems to be more rooted in our former chancellor, a.k.a Gazprom Gerd. Revolving door, and such, you know? :-)
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by lrem on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:14PM (#28831865)
Is it so? Constituting a quarter of the gdp, Germany doesn't seem to qualify as "the tail".
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by buran77 on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:37PM (#28832106)
Is public opinion weight a matter of GDP? Should it?
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by lrem on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @03:17AM (#28836960)
I'm afraid it usually is - just think of ways to sway it. Now, I would love to agree it shouldn't be, but there is no concrete system I can think of that could decouple it well. Ownership of media by the state oftentimes makes it a propaganda arm of whichever party is ruling. Private ownership, even in case of heavy subsidies, implies ownership by capital...
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by moralestapia on Monday October 11, 2021 @08:28PM (#28834628)
Germany is also the most populated country in the EU.
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by petre on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @12:58AM (#28836246)
That's 26% of EU population. Still less than 50%.
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by TedDoesntTalk on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:35PM (#28832090)
Hasn’t Bill Gates done a lot with nuclear reactor design?
Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by petre on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @01:01AM (#28836269)
Yes. But it's not ready for production yet, they don't have a demonstrator.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TerraPower

Re:Led by France, 10 EU countries call on Brussels to label ... by callistus on Monday October 11, 2021 @03:40PM (#28832131)