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Re:The Shadow Penal System for Struggling Kids by suifbwish on Monday October 11, 2021 @11:22AM (#28829356)
Why is it that everyone seems to be okay with someone having no human rights until they are 18? In the USA people under 18 are viewed as property. What they need is for an entire fraternity of law students to show up and demand to tour their facility.
Re:The Shadow Penal System for Struggling Kids by JumpCrisscross on Monday October 11, 2021 @11:41AM (#28829580)
> Why is it that everyone seems to be okay with someone having no human rights until they are 18? In the USA people under 18 are viewed as property.

For starters, because these statements are not true [1].

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_young_people%27s_r...

Re:The Shadow Penal System for Struggling Kids by cycomanic on Monday October 11, 2021 @12:03PM (#28829816)
While you are correct it is not everyone, as an outsider it is still striking how different kids rights are viewed in the states compared to Europe/Oceania. The OP is correct that you hear the "it's my child I have ultimate control over it" is much more expressed by US Americans than pretty much anywhere else. So much so that when there is discussions of restrictions this is considered to impede on the fundamental freedoms of the parents (yes the irony).
Re:The Shadow Penal System for Struggling Kids by drfxyjhdyfrhgc on Monday October 11, 2021 @12:36PM (#28830167)
>...you hear the "it's my child I have ultimate control over it" is much more expressed by US Americans than pretty much anywhere else...

Probably true, but technically because the sentiment is expressed in English. Non-western cultures often take some things a few steps further.

Re:The Shadow Penal System for Struggling Kids by bserge on Monday October 11, 2021 @12:40PM (#28830208)
Yet many European countries have no concept of emancipation.
Re:The Shadow Penal System for Struggling Kids by pjc50 on Monday October 11, 2021 @12:12PM (#28829901)
Where does "not ratifying the UN convention on rights of the child" fit in that timeline?