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Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by seanmcdirmid on Saturday October 09, 2021 @11:56AM (#28810931)
I’m not sure many in the west would see divisiveness as a negative, in so much that it seems necessary to reach an stable equilibrium. Yes, one side will find the other side’s position infuriating, but China is the result of what happens when one side completely wins over the other. Because there is no equilibrium to be had, they can only emphasize unity.
Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by TeMPOraL on Saturday October 09, 2021 @01:05PM (#28811483)
If you want to balance a system dynamically, you want negative, not positive feedback loops. The latter will just grow until they shake the system apart.

In other words: polarisation is useful when it's transient. Some issue causes people to divide and work out some consensus, and then divisions die down. A persistent divison that becomes its own end is destructive.

Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by seanmcdirmid on Saturday October 09, 2021 @07:49PM (#28814393)
We basically have an efficient system where two sides constantly adjust their positions so that elections are won basically on a knife edge. The system demands competition, and if that competition doesn’t come from outside (eg there is a war), it won’t simply disappear.

Actually, doesn’t China do that? It paints it’s people’s struggles as them vs the rest of the world. Maybe they don’t need political competition because the CIA gets the blame for many of its domestic problems.

Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by TeMPOraL on Sunday October 10, 2021 @01:20PM (#28820151)
> We basically have an efficient system where two sides constantly adjust their positions so that elections are won basically on a knife edge. The system demands competition, and if that competition doesn’t come from outside (eg there is a war), it won’t simply disappear.

Yeah, but what's the system efficient about? Not figuring out correct solutions - the internal competition demands both sides to define themselves in terms of doing/believing the opposite to what the other side does/believes, so the system is just doing a random walk. The way I see it, it's primarily efficient as a way to grow the market - ever-increasing campaign budgets and ongoing political shouting matches are just funding advertisers and news agencies.

Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by gremloni on Sunday October 10, 2021 @03:07AM (#28816421)
It’s a question of degrees of divisiveness. If the population is divided enough to kill each other there probably needs to be some sort of regulations to temper the extremes.
Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by th0ma5 on Saturday October 09, 2021 @12:39PM (#28811274)
Not defending China's idea at all, but with private media in this country having a financial motivation to knowingly lie is pretty reprehensible. They have the right to do it sure, and they should, but if a good portion of a populace lives in a fiction, that isn't great. And to be clear while leftist stuff can be extreme, sure, the current major problem is right wing extremist lies are clearly more detrimental just because of their popularity. It is not really a both sides issue.
Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by More-nitors on Saturday October 09, 2021 @12:57PM (#28811422)
> with private media in this country having a financial motivation to knowingly lie is pretty reprehensible.

That can be balanced-out with other media outlets voicing other side.

And... not attacking China's great political unification, having and using politics to censor out a lot of government corruption that ultimately hurts its own people... doesn't look great

(no 'political balance-of-power' + no freedom-of-speech/press + no-election: the government officials can de facto do whatever they want, from small things like accepting bribes for not noticing fake-food factories, to uh... ok I'll stop now.

Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by ethbr0 on Saturday October 09, 2021 @03:33PM (#28812554)
>> with private media in this country having a financial motivation to knowingly lie is pretty reprehensible.

> That can be balanced-out with other media outlets voicing other side.

It's entirely possible to counter balance something with a lie, neither the original or response being the truth, which doesn't help inform the viewers either.

Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by th0ma5 on Saturday October 09, 2021 @01:17PM (#28811568)
None of that is refuting what I am saying. I agree with all of that.