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Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by chmod600 on Saturday October 09, 2021 @10:30AM (#28810171)
What does non-profit news look like? A few rich people starting non-profit and making news might not be very trustworthy. I guess you mean a wide group of donors. But non-profits have a lot of trouble raising money without controversy. Imagine trying to solicit donations when every other story alienates half the donors.

And it doesn't really answer a lot of the hard questions. Who is going to actually write the articles, what's their political angle, and what are their career objectives? And how do you handle delicate topics with evolving information in a neutral way?

Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by JumpCrisscross on Saturday October 09, 2021 @12:22PM (#28811124)
> What does non-profit news look like?

Subscriber owned, i.e. subscribing involves buying a voting share in the enterprise. Endowed. Donor-driven is just one among many non-profit models.

Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by idontwantthis on Saturday October 09, 2021 @11:55AM (#28810923)
There’s NPR/PBS and it’s fantastic.
Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by chmod600 on Saturday October 09, 2021 @01:07PM (#28811496)
I don't think that's what the parent post had in mind. Those are more like state-sponsored news. Technically non-profit, but usually considered a different category.
Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by Frost1x on Saturday October 09, 2021 @12:15PM (#28811073)
They need stable secure funding that's unaffected by what the publish (not the quality per see) and autonomoy. With that, you tend to get good news.
Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by xattt on Saturday October 09, 2021 @11:22AM (#28810620)
An example of non-profit news in the US is PBS Newshour and in Canada, The Agenda with Steve Paikin on TVO. Both have broadcast pieces as well as accompanying online articles.
Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by chmod600 on Saturday October 09, 2021 @12:11PM (#28811038)
PBS is funded by the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, which is tax money. So it's more like NPR or the BBC.

Also, PBS has a variety of content and I don't think I know anyone who watches their news. Scarcely any of their content, but they have a few good things. I don't think they are taken very seriously as a news organization -- much less than NPR, for instance.

Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by neltnerb on Saturday October 09, 2021 @02:43PM (#28812177)
I'm pretty sure they've repeatedly mentioned that they're also funded by viewers like me ;-)

Yes, they get government funding and have a public mission. But they also aren't entirely funded by tax dollars.

I do think they have a weird bias that they are very oblivious to, but I don't think it's exactly a pro-government bias. It seems more like a don't-be-controversial bias where the goalpost for that keeps shifting.

Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by xattt on Saturday October 09, 2021 @02:30PM (#28812079)
Some of it may be tax money, but some of it is donations made by individuals and organizations. The credits of PBS Newshour front-load the show with names of the contributors.
Re:China proposes prohibiting private investment in news ser... by ethbr0 on Saturday October 09, 2021 @11:21AM (#28810614)
A better evolution would probably be similar to Spotify royalties.

Create one "donations to non-profit news" bucket, that people could freely contribute to (with tax advantages, like the election fund).

Then apportion that money out to all non-profit news organizations, according to some (readership) + (journalistic awards by their peers) weighting.

It removes the direct connection between donor and output, which is what we seem to want in news.