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Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by romwell on Thursday October 07, 2021 @09:59PM (#28794850)
Eh, good riddance.

Also, pragmatically, if this means that more tech workers end up relocating to Texas, this will hasten the shift in Texan politics. Most tech workers are left-leaning if only because educated people are left-leaning.

And let's be honest, if you are working for a salary, the Republican party does not represent your interests.

Given how covid is currently affecting Texas, the next election cycles are going to be interesting.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by texasviking on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:05PM (#28794885)
If Tesla is moving it’s headquarters to get away from the unfavorable political landscape of California, why would it want to hasten a shift in Texas politics to something that resembles California?
Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by romwell on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:14PM (#28794955)
>Why would it want to hasten a shift in Texas politics to something that resembles California?

Clearly, Tesla wouldn't want that; but it would be a side-effect.

Tech workers tend to be educated, educated people tend to be left-leaning, a tech economy is a liberal economy.

That California has a liberal government and the world's tech hub is not a coincidence.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by GhettoComputers on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:22PM (#28795007)
Tech workers are more educated because cities are more educated and cities and colleges are always more liberal. But being “liberal” doesn’t mean the same thing to everyone. You brought up covid, lockdowns which restrict freedom is not “liberal” or liberating in any way.
Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by dragonwriter on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:26PM (#28795032)
> Tech workers are more educated because cities are more educated

No, knowledge workers (including tech workers) are more educated because of the specific requirements of the jobs they do.

While that type of jobs may be disproportionately concentrated in cities, the ones that are rural are still educated.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by GhettoComputers on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:39PM (#28795119)
Sorry I don’t mean to say that there aren’t educated people in rural areas, but the trend is generally your point of concentration. Many people look down on farmers despite many being extremely educated. But certain educational backgrounds are more valued in societal perceptions.

Good distinction on knowledge workers.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by romwell on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:36PM (#28795103)
>Tech workers are more educated because cities are more educated and cities and colleges are always more liberal

You do realize that that's a non-sequitur, do you? Let's break it down:

1. Cities are more educated (compared to what? But OK.)

2. Colleges are more liberal (than what? But OK too.)

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3. Tech workers are more educated (????)

Does not compute, my friend. In any case, this does not even contradict anything I said.

And I brought up COVID because the (unvaccinated) people are dying in record numbers in Texas, and those dying are overwhelmingly right-leaning.

I struggle to understand your point.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by GhettoComputers on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:49PM (#28795185)
The opposite of cities and the college educated. I’m not looking to call you wrong or contradict you. They have the right to choose their own lives. If you value the fundamental of American freedom, allow them to live and die as they see fit.
Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by grahamjpark on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:19PM (#28794982)
Obviously Tesla corporate won’t be pushing for a shift in Texas politics. But I would guess the majority of people Tesla would bring to Texas to fill their roles would support a more liberal version of Texas. I think that’s what OP was saying.
Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by chii on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:12PM (#28794942)
> why would it want to hasten a shift

tesla isn't doing the hastening willingly. Their hires are.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by RandomBK on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:11PM (#28794930)
Liberal social politics doesn't necessarily equate to liberal economic politics. As highly paid engineers tend to also be affected by high taxes, etc. it's possible we'll see a move towards liberal social policies (i.e. abortion) while business law more-or-less stays put.
Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by romwell on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:29PM (#28795056)
> As highly paid engineers tend to also be affected by high taxes

The engineers also tend to be affected by the things the taxes are collected for. Like, say, healthcare in case you get unemployed.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by RandomBK on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:44PM (#28795150)
Very true. That's why I said social and economic policy doesn't _necessarily_ equate. There's a connection, but not 1:1.

Like all states, Texas wastes more than enough money for it be a consistent position to simultaneously support better health care while resisting higher taxes.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by flud on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:06PM (#28794896)
It wouldn't, but it doesn't mean it won't
Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by pyinstallwoes on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:09PM (#28794922)
This is a pretty negative comment that only seeks to shame and boast.
Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by romwell on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:46PM (#28795160)
Hey, I used to live in Texas, I care for that state a lot.

There was no shame or boast intended, and I struggle to see where it could be perceived in my comments.

I live in the Bay Area now, in no small part due to how that fine state is run.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by 0xy on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:20PM (#28794992)
The appeal to education is pretty lazy and incorrect given people with PhD educations are the most likely group to be hesitant of the vaccine. [1] A huge majority of them are Democrats. [2]

I wouldn't associate PhDs with intelligence given this information.

[1] https://www.webmd.com/vaccines/covid-19-vaccine/news/2021081...

[2] https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2016/04/26/a-wider-ideo...

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by mam3 on Monday October 11, 2021 @10:47AM (#28828916)
maybe you should not associate uninformed trust in "experts" as intelligence either.

Most scientist know how flaky scientific results and publications are. Studies like the Lancet didn't help either.

I'm a PhD and waiting a few months was the smart move

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by systemvoltage on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:27PM (#28795042)
I have always voted for Democrats but I plan to vote for anyone but them in the next election because of the toxic politics like this. May be a new party that values freedom and civil liberties.
Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by GhettoComputers on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:36PM (#28795101)
Don’t vote based on party. This person doesn’t represent all democratic politicians, nor should someone represent all republican politicians, although if you see it in a gestalt viewpoint I can understand your valid opinion. The 2 party system forces a tribalism which is toxic. Separating cheerleaders and the actual party is like hating a band because you don’t like their fans, but don’t let it blind you to policies that are beneficial whatever party they belong to.
Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by systemvoltage on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:48PM (#28795175)
You seem to have very balanced view and thanks for the wisdom. I've always been a contrarian. So, when one party takes too much power including Big Tech and complete assault on freedom of speech, I shall vote for anything but them.

Just like Republican party that has lost its original core with anti-science and anti-truth crusade, the Democrats have injected identity politics and woke culture. Absolutely garbage, both sides.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by GhettoComputers on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:53PM (#28795213)
Completely understandable. The pendulum swings!
Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by cxf12 on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:09PM (#28794917)
"Given how covid is currently affecting Texas, the next election cycles are going to be interesting."

Educated people should be able to see the current graphs. Hint: Covid will be gone in 4-6 weeks.

Re:Tesla moving headquarters to Texas from California by GhettoComputers on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:19PM (#28794979)
Politics is so toxic. Politicians do not represent your interests, they represent the interests of themselves. I live in Chicago, a Democratic city in a democratic state and the people here value freedom to choose their own lives, to not have lockdowns, to cheer for the oppression of fellow citizens is not in the interest of anyone I am in favor of.

What morals do you stand for when oppressing people’s individuality under the guise of any political reason? You wouldn’t cheer for others forcing your actions, would you?