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Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by dr_dshiv on Thursday October 07, 2021 @08:24PM (#28794008)
Just a bottle behind a screen behind a fan? Or does it blow into the screen?
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by LinuxBender on Thursday October 07, 2021 @08:29PM (#28794053)
About 20 feet in front of it. The gasses get pulled into the fan along with the mosquitoes. It works without carbonated drinks too, just slower. And that only helps if there is a swarm of them i.e. near a standing body of water. In standing water you can also use "mosquito donuts" that release a bacterium which is toxic to all species of mosquito larvae. A common brand is called "Mosquito Dunks"
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by jschwartzi on Thursday October 07, 2021 @09:18PM (#28794528)
Please only do this in artificial bodies of water. There’s an entire food chain of insects and birds and fish which rely on the larvae and adults.
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by SamBam on Thursday October 07, 2021 @09:29PM (#28794624)
I've been interested in this question for a while. The Bill Gates-funded science to try and eradicate all mosquitoes always appears founded on the premise that it would cause a ripple effect in the ecosystem. Anyone know if that's justified?
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by sprucely on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:08PM (#28794905)
Where I live, we used to have tons of frogs. The city actually built a freeway bypass to prevent too many flat frogs. Didn't work. Anyway, the frogs quickly vanished around the same time we started spraying to reduce the spread of West Nile. Don't know if it was the food source or if the spray killed the tadpoles, but unintended consequences are a thing. A knock-on to that is we now have a growing roach problem.
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by netjiro on Monday October 11, 2021 @08:11AM (#28827433)
Many biocides have negative effects on amphibians that go far beyond food supply.
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by Cogito on Friday October 08, 2021 @01:11AM (#28795960)
It's never "all mosquitos" it's "all of these 2-3 types (Anopheles) of mosquitoes that are vectors for human pathogens".

The ecosystem impact is still super important to understand, but it's reasonable to think that other mosquitos, or similar insects, could fill the niche left behind.

Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by hypertele-Xii on Friday October 08, 2021 @03:02AM (#28796491)
I'm for eliminating all mosquitos. They are the single most annoying thing about the best time of the year, summer, around here. I want to enjoy it without being harrassed about sucking my blood. The ecosystem will adapt.
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by dividedbyzero on Friday October 08, 2021 @05:53AM (#28797426)
> The ecosystem will adapt.

Sure, but as with climate change, you may not like the result. I guess there's a fair chance that it won't be "just like now, but no mosquito bites". Mosquito larvae are a big source of food for others, and extensively prey on larvae of other species, keeping those in check. Adult mosquitos are important pollinators, too, and as we're currently discovering with bees, taking out an important pollinator has big consequences and while the ecosystems will adapt, it may well end up shedding very desirable species entirely, ecosystems take a long time to bounce back, and may be a lot less appealing to us afterwards.

Frogs and fish might suffer, too, they'll have to make do with a lot less food when you take mosquitos out, and what takes their niche may not be as palatable. You push these below a sustainable population size in an area, you probably lose them entirely, and their function of keeping insect larvae and adult insects in check. Since we'd like to enjoy mosquito-free summers ourselves, and soon, the time scales we'd typically do such interventions on is way too short for much adaptation in vertebrates to take place, generation times even of frogs and small fish are too long for that. You may end up with ponds that are way emptier and more silent, and with lots more creepy crawlies and possibly a long-term balance that has, say, way more rats, roaches, etc.

Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by BoxOfRain on Friday October 08, 2021 @06:05AM (#28797487)
I’ve been plagued by mosquitoes ever since I quit smoking, I’ve found that heating a spoon with boiling water and pressing it against the bites for as long as you can stand the pain will swiftly deal with the itching. You have to be careful not to burn yourself though!
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by oezi on Friday October 08, 2021 @07:15AM (#28797924)
Or just buy a device with the same principle: https://www.beurer.com/web/gb/products/medical/insect-bite-h...
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by BoxOfRain on Friday October 08, 2021 @07:44AM (#28798115)
Sounds expensive compared to boiling a kettle. I actually looked this up, boiling a litre of water in a kettle costs about two pence and I’d only boil around half a pint (~280 ml) for this costing me 0.56p per go. That device retails for about £30 where I live so I’d need to be bitten badly enough for it to be a problem about 5,350 times before it’d be worthwhile.

I guess it depends on whether the device is durable enough to last that long, and whether or not you’re careful enough to avoid burns with the spoon method!

Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by oezi on Friday October 08, 2021 @09:53AM (#28799313)
The main advantage is that it is quick and delivers a quantity of heat that matches what is needed to inactivate the mosquito's venom.

Assuming your leisure time is worth 20p per minute, the cost is quickly amortized.

Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by cassepipe on Friday October 08, 2021 @04:37AM (#28797006)
I get the feeling but the point is that most mosquitoes do not suck your blood. And the blood sucking ones are just the female mosquitoes of a certain mosquito type and your blood is only meant to help their reproduction. #NotAllMosquitoes
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by dmd on Friday October 08, 2021 @09:04AM (#28798783)
An excellent comment on this topic last time eliminating mosquitos were discussed:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26837319

Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by rsync on Friday October 08, 2021 @11:01AM (#28800093)
On the one hand, yes, an excellent comment with some impressive background and credentials.

On the other hand, I'm put off by this rejection of differing viewpoints:

"While contrarianism is a valuable american (and human) trait, in this situation it is misplaced, mis-informed, and dangerous. An educated man's anti-vaxx, if you will."

... which employs a fairly lazy pejorative to dismiss (people that think perhaps we shouldn't eliminate mosquitos).

I believe I quote Will Durant: "The mosquito is the enemy of civilization" and I am intrigued, generally, by the idea of eliminating mosquitos ... but I also adhere to the precautionary principal.

Maybe save a breeding stock and frozen eggs, etc., in case there is some hidden consequence we didn't think of ?

Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by maxerickson on Thursday October 07, 2021 @11:06PM (#28795298)
The bacteria probably attack more than just the species that feed on humans, but putting that aside, there's only a handful of species that focus on humans, so disrupting those doesn't necessarily mean disrupting all mosquitoes.
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by LinuxBender on Thursday October 07, 2021 @09:40PM (#28794700)
I've only ever done this in places with a high diversity of insects for birds and bats to eat.
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by whiddershins on Friday October 08, 2021 @08:07AM (#28798280)
Do you know this for sure?
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by dr_dshiv on Friday October 08, 2021 @04:03AM (#28796812)
The screen is 20 feet in front of the fan?
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by cassepipe on Friday October 08, 2021 @04:33AM (#28796984)
Re:Laser for control of mosquitos, weeds and pests by dr_dshiv on Friday October 08, 2021 @07:00AM (#28797831)
Wonderful! Thanks.