Re:El Salvador's Bitcoin use grows but headaches persist
by xtracto on Thursday October 07, 2021 @05:24PM
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I think at some point I read that given the amount of the GDP that remittances are in El Salvador, and the % that Western Union and similar services charge for each transfer, they calculated that a good chunk of the GDP was being left in these transfer services.
In the case of Mexico, remittances would be 3.8% of the GDP, and the WU fee is 8% [1], which means that 0.3% of the GDP is being left in the table. In El Salvador I think it is about 20%, which would mean that 1.6% of the GDP is being left in the WU and similar services.
[1] https://www.westernunion.com/us/en/send-money/app/price-esti...
Re:El Salvador's Bitcoin use grows but headaches persist
by asdff on Thursday October 07, 2021 @05:04PM
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If its USD to USD in this case, why not mail a check? I wonder if you could even just scan a check and email it and use a mobile bank app to deposit a printed copy. Or even have the US relative log into the Salvadoran relatives bank account and do it all within the U.S.
Re:El Salvador's Bitcoin use grows but headaches persist
by int_19h on Thursday October 07, 2021 @05:13PM
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Checks are not common outside of US and a few other countries. Checks from another country especially can be a hassle to cash, may take a long time (as in weeks!), and may require paying a percentage fee to the bank.
Re:El Salvador's Bitcoin use grows but headaches persist
by tombert on Thursday October 07, 2021 @05:17PM
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They're not terribly common even within the US. I refinanced my house recently, and and I had to order a new checkbook from my bank to do it, because I couldn't find the one they gave me four years ago. Every time I do have to write a check, I always have to "figure it out" again, which isn't exactly rocket science, but is a testament to how little I write checks.
Like most of the world, I use credit cards or debit cards or a cash sending app.
Re:El Salvador's Bitcoin use grows but headaches persist
by int_19h on Friday October 08, 2021 @06:03PM
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They're common enough for banks to universally support them. E.g. if you get compensation from some company (due to overpaid bill, legal settlement etc), it'll usually come as a check by default - and sometimes that's the only available option. I've also dealt with landlords and home repair providers that would only accept checks.
Re:El Salvador's Bitcoin use grows but headaches persist
by asdff on Friday October 08, 2021 @04:13AM
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yet you can still cash a check and write a check even if its not popular.
Re:El Salvador's Bitcoin use grows but headaches persist
by tombert on Thursday October 07, 2021 @05:10PM
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Well, I mean, mailing a check takes a long time, certainly longer than sending some bitcoin would take, even if it was free. Emailing a scan could work, but wouldn't that be completely trivial to abuse? If someone gets a Gmail password, they could just photoshop a the check to empty out your relative's account with very low effort.
I think blockchain kind of solves these two particular problems; the money transfers are relatively quick (around 20 minutes for bitcoin), and you have all this cryptographic goodness to minimize the potential for fraud.
Re:El Salvador's Bitcoin use grows but headaches persist
by asdff on Thursday October 07, 2021 @05:14PM
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It shouldn't matter how long it takes to mail after the first check is mailed, right? If the relative in the US is sending money every biweekly pay check and it takes 9 days or whatever to mail a check, the relative in El Salvador is still getting a check every two weeks, just nine days later on the calendar than payday.
Re:El Salvador's Bitcoin use grows but headaches persist
by hackingforfun on Thursday October 07, 2021 @06:23PM
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Lightning network transactions occur in seconds, if not milliseconds [1].
That said, since they're on the US Dollar anyway, I think it might have made more sense to use a stablecoin like GUSD or DAI or something.