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Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by yanderekko on Thursday October 07, 2021 @10:56AM (#28787121)
>The loudest critics of social media are the old vanguards of news who are upset that the new kid on the block took their ad money.

Also activists who are clearly engaging in motivated reasoning in arguing that Facebook needs to do more to censor conservative opinions.

Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by asdfman123 on Thursday October 07, 2021 @07:15PM (#28793361)
Lies aren't opinions. "Hillary Clinton is a Gila Monster" is not an opinion but a complete fabrication.

That's what mainstream liberals are deeply concerned about, not conservative ideas about taxation.

Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by bodge5000 on Friday October 08, 2021 @11:46AM (#28800537)
Maybe I'm behind on the times but I don't think liberals are kept up at night by the idea of someone putting on facebook that the clintons are a race of green skinned aliens.

In actual fact I think, as per usual, the situation is more complicated than that. Some of the censoring may be for fabrications, but the people who decide what is and isn't a fabrication are biased, and therefore leads to opinions at very least being caught up in the mix

Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by chmod600 on Thursday October 07, 2021 @09:02PM (#28794387)
But in practice it's taking out things that appear to be true or at least a viable theory. For instance, the reporting on Hunter Biden's laptop, and the lab leak theory.

So be concerned about people calling Clinton a Gila Monster if that's your most pressing concern. But by censoring it, you will also miss out on contrarian reporting that's actually true.

Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by KaiserPro on Thursday October 07, 2021 @11:10AM (#28787350)
> Also activists who are clearly engaging in motivated reasoning in arguing that Facebook needs to do more to censor

censor _everything_

Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by joshstrange on Thursday October 07, 2021 @01:32PM (#28789570)
> conservative opinions

That's an interesting way to say "misinformation".

Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by pcf on Thursday October 07, 2021 @02:50PM (#28790578)
Everything in society is between "progressive" and "conservative" values. To say that "conservative opinions" are simply "misinformation", is very misinformed in itself.
Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by joshstrange on Thursday October 07, 2021 @03:02PM (#28790728)
Read the whole comment I replied to. There is no one trying to just censor conservative opinions, they are trying to censor conservative misinformation. I wasn’t painting all conservative opinions as misinformation, I’m was saying the things people want censored is the misinformation, not just opinions.
Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by pcf on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:32PM (#28833837)
> There is no one trying to just censor conservative opinions

Hm? There are lots and lots of people and companies trying to censor conservative opinions.

I don't know if you've managed to read/consume the whole news spectrum over the last years, but I recommend that you pay regular attention to both progressive/liberal AND conservative outlets. Then you would know better than to say something like this.

Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by joshstrange on Monday October 11, 2021 @06:57PM (#28834055)
Context people. Context.

I’m talking about Facebook. I’m talking about the conservatives that complain that FB is censoring their posts. Posts that are largely, if not completely, mis/disinformation about a myriad of topics.

Of course there exists people who want the censor conservative voices, full stop. I’m aware those people exist, but that’s clearly not who I’m talking about in this context and I think you know that.

Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by pcf on Tuesday October 12, 2021 @07:28PM (#28846356)
Don't expect others to piece together your puzzles, maybe? If you're talking about something specific, actually say that. We are not telepathic, so it would make life much easier for all of us. Thaaaank you.
Re:Facebook is nearing a reputational point of no return by tablespoon on Thursday October 07, 2021 @07:06PM (#28793283)
> Read the whole comment I replied to. There is no one trying to just censor conservative opinions, they are trying to censor conservative misinformation.

Exactly. There's there a popular bit of spin that tries defend mis/disinformation by confusing it with political opinion.

One of the signs of American decline and weakness is how several bits of blatant mis/disinformation have lodged themselves in the conservative discourse, and the conservatives who have problem with that are too weak to do anything about it.

I'm not saying that couldn't also be true of liberals, but that doesn't and shouldn't mean conservatives are off the hook for their own problems.