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Re:Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been ... by swarnie on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @07:37AM (#28771847)
Maybe if viewed in a cynical way yes.

At least when i donate to blue origin i get something tangible delivered to my door.

Where is the value exchange in being one of 10k people building a faux-relationship with a hot tub streamer?

Re:Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been ... by meheleventyone on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @08:03AM (#28772076)
I mean it's not cynical (at least not anymore than your initial comment), it's what we're doing and why I used another entertainment option as a point of comparison.

Of all the things on Twitch the value of Hot Tub streams seem very upfront and I think it's pretty telling that there are vanishingly few successful streamers doing it and that for all the hot air people spew about its a very niche part of the site.

Re:Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been ... by input_sh on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @07:48AM (#28771934)
Same as with paying to see a Disney movie: entertainment. It's just a bit more interactive, since streamers are a bit more likely to interact with you after you give them money.
Re:Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been ... by MMS21 on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @08:03AM (#28772074)
>since streamers are a bit more likely to interact with you after you give them money

ohwee! the streamer might read out your username along with a scripted line after a 5 dollar subscription!1Eleven

Re:Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been ... by input_sh on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @08:46AM (#28772469)
Is there a point you're failing at making? In my mind it's no different than, say, voting for contestants on talent shows, or paying a camgirl, or pay-per-view WWE events. Same thing targeting a different demographic.
Re:Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been ... by A4ET8a8uTh0 on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @09:16AM (#28772762)
I think the word you are looking for is entertainment. You may not appreciate the value of said entertainment, but then I don't really see a merit of donkey shows, Kanye or just about any other entertainment figure. That is the value.

And by its very nature, it is ephemeral.

Re:Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been ... by ohgodplsno on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @08:35AM (#28772371)
> At least when i donate to blue origin i get something tangible delivered to my door.

Undelivered promises and lawsuits against NASA to slow down space exploration for all of us ?

Re:Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been ... by kdmytro on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @08:32AM (#28772343)
Money transfer does not necessarily mean mutually beneficial transfer of value. Another example of this is theft.
Re:Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been ... by Geee on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @08:44AM (#28772451)
It's a service. Service is a product that is consumed when it's produced.
Re:Twitch source code and customer data has reportedly been ... by InvOfSmallC on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @08:59AM (#28772581)
I mean, in all honesty it's entertainment. To me Marvel is better but someone prefer hot tubs.