Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by cloogshicer on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @09:58AM
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How do you do Time Machine backups without ongoing effort? Do you backup to a network drive or something like that?
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Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by extra88 on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @10:14AM
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What effort? It runs automatically every hour. They include that they buy a new drive on which backups are written and archive the old one. Presumably they buy drives that are big enough to have a full backup and a reasonable about of space for the diffs (a drive 50% larger than the one being backed up is typically sufficient).
Since Time Machine is in addition to other backup methods, they don't need to make an effort to keep a Time Machine drive offsite.
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by cloogshicer on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @10:32AM
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What I meant is, you have to physically connect the drive, unless you're using a Network drive, and I wanted to know how their setup works. I tried setting up Time Machine via Network Drive once and it didn't work so well, so I'm trying to learn.
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by ryandrake on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @11:32AM
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Time Machine has been the only way I've been able to get the majority of my family's devices to consistently back up. Thankfully it's a mostly-mac house. Have an always-on Debian machine which acts as a NAS. Install and configure netatalk and avahi.
Edit /etc/netatalk/afp.conf:
[Time Machine]
path = /path/to/backups
time machine = yes
And you're done. Don't lift a finger to do backups ever again.
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by cloogshicer on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @12:39PM
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Thank you!
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by Joeri on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @11:20AM
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I run a usb cable from the back of my imac to a drive hidden underneath my desk. It is effectively zero maintenance, because time machine removes old backups to make space for the new.
For laptops I would aim for a setup where the drive is connected to whatever dock solution is in place. MacOS would backup automatically while the laptop was docked.
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by miked85 on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @10:49AM
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Using Time Machine via network is the only way I have ever used it. I initially used Apple Time Capsule (RIP), and now just use a Time Machine compatible NAS.
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by chaostheory on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @11:51AM
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Too complicated. Just connect a drive via USB.
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by gnicholas on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @12:29PM
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Even with a Time Capsule, Time Machine can be annoying. I had to turn automatic backups off because for some reason every backup was hundreds of MB. It took my 2017 MBP 15-30 mins to complete each backup, which meant that 25-50% of the time my computer was on, it was backing up. This meant the fan was going and the computer slowed down.
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by ubermonkey on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @11:20AM
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Review your backup config, because it sounds like you're accidentally picking up something you shouldn't be.
This happened to me at one point and the culprit ended up being that I had failed to exclude the folder holding my VMs.
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by ubermonkey on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @11:19AM
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The current TM drive is plugged into the hub on my desk.
In these COVID times, my laptop rarely leaves that desk, but even when it does there's only one cable to plug it all -- monitors, ethernet, various other peripherals, speakers, power -- into my laptop.
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by jhrozek on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @10:15AM
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not OP, but yes, I backup both our Mac machines (TimeMachine) and my Linux machine (restic) to a Synology NAS that is in turn backed up to a cloud. I ended up using the Synology cloud because the setup was easy and they have a datacenter in the EU.
Re:Ask HN: How should I back up data on devices if I'm not s...
by MiguelHudnandez on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @10:18AM
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Yes, time machine can run over the network. It really is easy.