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Re:Facebook going down meant more than just a social network... by pjc50 on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @04:10AM (#28756656)
> Sure, telcos sucked, but there were tons of them spread across all corners of the globe

Local monopolies rather than a global one.

What if there was a global, international messaging system available to everyone with a phone, that strove for five-nines reliability? And wasn't funded by advertising? And didn't deplatform anyone(+)?

Oh wait it's called SMS and everyone hates it, largely for good reasons. The internet has a lot of problems but it disrupted the telcos by being far cheaper despite using the same infrastructure while offering more capability.

Re:Facebook going down meant more than just a social network... by GeckoEidechse on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @04:23AM (#28756726)
I mean a reason SMS gets its hate is because the moment you send a message across international borders you start paying ridiculously large sums of money (compared to the amount of data transferred) for every single message. If you now take Europe for example where it's easy to have friends in another country that you talk to regularly and you can see why WhatsApp quickly gained in popularity there simply because it was the cheaper option.
Re:Facebook going down meant more than just a social network... by eyko on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @06:04AM (#28757318)
The EU capped intra-EU calls and SMS prices a few years ago: https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/policies/intra-eu-c...

Perhaps too little too late since everyone now uses messaging apps for practically no cost.

Re:Facebook going down meant more than just a social network... by KptMarchewa on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @07:51AM (#28758127)
6 cents is infinitely more than I've ever paid for whatsapp.

The pay-per-message model has simply no place here.

Re:Facebook going down meant more than just a social network... by C19is20 on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @06:43AM (#28757639)
I dont pay for Euro-cross-border anything. Well, €5.99 a month, but that comes with 100Gb of data. Current offers here: www.kenamobile.it/offerte/
Re:Facebook going down meant more than just a social network... by herbst on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @06:05AM (#28757323)
Within Europe monthly free SMS to other European countries have been a common theme for a while. The main reason I see nether SMS not WhatsApp being popular today around here is how much more a app like Telegram does and how some of these apps actually protect your privacy. SMS is flawed, and WhatsApp everything but private.
Re:Facebook going down meant more than just a social network... by makeitdouble on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @04:57AM (#28756923)
I understand the feeling, but SMS really doesn't work. A the end of the day, it is just a hack on top of the telephone network.

There are countries were SMS is actually local to the carrier, and they don't route user messages out of their bounds. In the olden days it was fun asking people where they contract their phone to decide wether to mail them or message them.

Some countries have horrible reliability for SMSes, I think India is a famous one. Trying to do user auth over SMS becomes a nightmare.

Then the issues if you cross borders, where you'll be enjoying both countries SMS idiosyncrasies on top of the round trip costs.

Then carriers won't open SMS to non voice SIMs, even if they get an access to the network. But you'll need to meet specific criteria to get a voice enabled SIM.

All in all, it's a tried and true protocol in limited setups, but not something to hold as a global gold standard (I think there sadly is no global standard to hold on a pedestal...we can hope we make one in the future)