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Re:Every device with FB app is now DDoSing recursive DNS res... by DaiPlusPlus on Monday October 04, 2021 @07:22PM (#28753649)
> those NS records have a 6 hour TTL

Why on earth would any system need a TTL beyond 1 hour? The longer the TTL the longer your outage period will be if a cache is poisoned.

Re:Every device with FB app is now DDoSing recursive DNS res... by mcspiff on Monday October 04, 2021 @07:27PM (#28753705)
On the flip side, it’s the longer you can survive an outage by relying on enough clients having the cached records. So can go both ways a bit.
Re:Every device with FB app is now DDoSing recursive DNS res... by toast0 on Monday October 04, 2021 @10:44PM (#28754945)
.com (used for Facebook authoritative DNS) and .net (used for WhatsApp) servers serve glue records with a 2 day TTL, and domain holders don't get to choose TTL. (the root servers serve glue records for the TLDs with a 2 day TTL as well).

So, two days is the TTL you get for your NS records. Of course, it takes way more than two days for people to stop querying your old records. I gave up after 30-45 days.

Re:Every device with FB app is now DDoSing recursive DNS res... by jbotz on Monday October 04, 2021 @10:07PM (#28754764)
Heh. I remember the day when a TTL of a week was pretty standard.

Anyway, the since the NS records for a domain come from the next level up, i.e. in this case the .com nameserver which are also the root nameservers, if they had a short TTL then those root nameservers would get hit pretty hard. Also, it isn't your choice what the TTL on your NS records is, it's admins of your top-level domains.

Re:Every device with FB app is now DDoSing recursive DNS res... by throwaway09223 on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @12:30AM (#28755516)
"Why on earth would any system need a TTL beyond 1 hour?"

Load. Lower TTLs mean shorter term caches and more traffic.

This is a big deal, especially for root servers -- which is why the TTL is not customizable.

Re:Every device with FB app is now DDoSing recursive DNS res... by fomine3 on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @04:05AM (#28756633)
Shorter TTL increases poisoning risk. Anyway attacker can set arbitrary TTL if they succeed poisoning so longer TTL won't increase risk.
Re:Every device with FB app is now DDoSing recursive DNS res... by Thorrez on Monday October 04, 2021 @10:06PM (#28754763)
Could something with a normal 1 hour TTL be poisoned by a cache entry with a 30 day TTL?