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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by iammisc on Monday October 04, 2021 @06:36PM (#28753109)
> Or a software engineer that didn't believe in binary

If using binary may incur a chance of heart failure and blood clots, yes, I'd be sure to hire a software engineer who didn't do that.

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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by stickfigure on Monday October 04, 2021 @06:43PM (#28753223)
A better comparison would be a software engineer who refuses to patch his out-of-date operating system because he's "not sure what the updates will do".
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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by beerandt on Monday October 04, 2021 @06:50PM (#28753315)
As opposed to installing every published patch, without internal testing, whether the patch is needed/applicable, or not?
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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by iammisc on Monday October 04, 2021 @07:11PM (#28753548)
Without realizing it, you're criticizing debian's release methodology without realizing why people use debian. There is often good reason not to just patch things willy-nilly. Patches that are easy and allay obvious safety concerns yes. But being a little bit behind bleeding edge is a good thing.
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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by lamontcg on Monday October 04, 2021 @08:44PM (#28754226)
The virus is a zero day unauthenticated remote code exploit against postfix. Dunno how we're so far into this thing and people don't get that yet.
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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by aaomidi on Monday October 04, 2021 @06:37PM (#28753131)
How about unvaccinated staff pose a risk to patients who are in the hospital and likely immunocompromised?

I agree if they fired people wfh that was stupid, but for doctors and nurses? Yeah they are a liability for other patients.

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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by iammisc on Monday October 04, 2021 @07:15PM (#28753593)
Except they are firing people. My company just announced all remote employees must be vaccinated. What does that mean? That is what their lawyers told them the vax mandate means. The same vax mandates that are getting nurses fired. Why can't people just come out and say it that the federal government mandates in their current form are illegal?
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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by munk-a on Monday October 04, 2021 @07:42PM (#28753817)
> Why can't people just come out and say it that the federal government mandates in their current form are illegal?

Because 1) they're not illegal and 2) they're quite useful to society as we want to make sure everyone gets vaccinated.

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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by iammisc on Monday October 04, 2021 @07:44PM (#28753836)
Nonsense. You have no evidence to show they're not illegal.
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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by aaomidi on Tuesday October 05, 2021 @04:04AM (#28756625)
To show they're illegal the burden of proof is on you.
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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by epistasis on Monday October 04, 2021 @06:38PM (#28753161)
What are you talking about here? Could you provide some documentation?
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Re:New York's largest healthcare provider fires 1,400 unvacc... by iammisc on Monday October 04, 2021 @06:51PM (#28753330)
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/patient-safety-outcome...

https://nypost.com/2021/03/15/italy-france-germany-pull-astr...

https://nypost.com/2021/10/04/twitter-criticized-for-fact-ch...

For me personally, I don't know anyone who's died of COVID, but I know two people who had complications from the vaccine, including my aunt who was already in fragile health and who was sent to the hospital due to myocarditis, and then told not to get shot number two. She's already partially disabled because of her health problems, but because of government mandate that requires she be 'fully vaccinated' (i.e., dead in her case) she can also no longer work any job (even remote ones, because apparently sitting in your home working is also illegal). Thanks Joe Biden!

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