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Re:Ask HN: What do engineers never talk to their bosses abou... by Loughla on Monday October 04, 2021 @10:06AM (#28746865)
Step 1: Assume nothing.

2: Voice your opinion directly to your supervisor in a respectful manner, and ask for follow-up.

3: Wait for follow up and track any changes made to processes or whatever.

4: Give a reasonable amount of time.

5: Then leave.

If you skip to 5, you're not really trying to fix the problem. You're just jumping ship - that's not a solution, really. Being an adult professional in the workplace requires you to confront problems directly.

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Re:Ask HN: What do engineers never talk to their bosses abou... by xenihn on Monday October 04, 2021 @10:37AM (#28747297)
What's not adult and professional about increasing your tc by 30-40% every time you jump ship
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Re:Ask HN: What do engineers never talk to their bosses abou... by pc86 on Monday October 04, 2021 @10:39AM (#28747323)
Who's talking about comp? While that's a perfectly valid reason to leave, we're talking about interpersonal interactions between a manager and an IC.
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Re:Ask HN: What do engineers never talk to their bosses abou... by xenihn on Monday October 04, 2021 @10:59AM (#28747576)
What do you think usually causes ICs to begin looking for new jobs in the first place
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Re:Ask HN: What do engineers never talk to their bosses abou... by JasonCannon on Wednesday October 06, 2021 @10:58AM (#28773929)
Not pay. Almost always because of issues with management/other workers. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/employees-dont-leave-companie...
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Re:Ask HN: What do engineers never talk to their bosses abou... by Loughla on Monday October 04, 2021 @11:31AM (#28748001)
>Most bosses are aware of the issues

This is not about compensation.

Leaving for compensation is absolutely a valid reason. Again, though, the same rules apply. Express to your employer you have received a job offer at X% more, with X improved benefits, and would gladly stay for a match. The worst they can say is no, correct?

Either way, the original conversation was about issues with the employer/manager. Not necessarily compensation.

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Re:Ask HN: What do engineers never talk to their bosses abou... by tcbasche on Thursday October 07, 2021 @04:57AM (#28783831)
I feel like that’s a bell you can’t unring though. What if they say yes? How can an employer possibly trust you don’t just go looking for an even better deal in a few months?
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