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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by csomar on Sunday October 03, 2021 @06:45AM (#28736103)
I'm a bit torn about this. I think a good compromise is for Apple to offer selling "genuine parts" to anyone who practically wants it; and maybe, allow changing parts once the main owner release control.

Apple's devices are quite expensive. iCloud locking have made them worth less in the black-market, but the components are still worth something. This will make Apple's devices worth next to nothing in the black market and as a consequence less of a risk of being a target of petty theft.

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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by NotPractical on Monday October 04, 2021 @06:23PM (#28752914)
You should not be torn. Apple is blatantly acting against your interests as a user, and you should be adamantly against this. You always need to place some level of trust in anyone you're allowing to repair your device -- even if they're using genuine Apple parts, they might not know how to properly work with them, for example. But this is why we have reviews. (By the way, they would be more likely to know how to do proper repairs if Apple freely published the top-secret internal repair documentation they already have, so they could just use that instead of random third-party guides, but that's another topic.) As a user, you should always have the choice of who to trust with your device's repair, just like you have a choice between mechanics working on your car. As a reminder, if you don't trust third party repair shops, right to repair laws don't force anyone to make use of them. You're free to be overcharged by Apple if you want. But it's important to have a choice.

Also, theft is not a problem that you can solve with software. People will always steal iPhones because there will always be at least some value to the components inside. I guarantee you that iCloud locking was not even a factor in the decision Apple made to implement this bullshit into iOS:

    if (camera.serialNumber != mainboard.camera.serialNumber) {
        freakTheFuckOutForNoReason()
    }
The only factor in this decision was most likely Apple's relentless, unending quest to acquire as many US dollars as possible, despite already having ~200 billion of them reserved [1].

[1] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/27/apple-q1-cash-hoard-heres-ho...

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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by orangepanda on Sunday October 03, 2021 @08:07AM (#28736533)
> I think a good compromise is for Apple to offer selling "genuine parts" to anyone who practically wants it; and maybe, allow changing parts once the main owner release control.

They sell hundreds of millions of devices each year. A problem I haven’t seen discussed much — could Apple’s suppliers actually deliver enough parts for new phones and spare parts?

Tesla supposedly has the same problem with spare parts being unavailable, as everything goes into new products.

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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by Wowfunhappy on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:21AM (#28737856)
> They sell hundreds of millions of devices each year. A problem I haven’t seen discussed much — could Apple’s suppliers actually deliver enough parts for new phones and spare parts?

Since they already sell hundreds of millions of devices a year, I'd say yes.

Do you think that if demand for whole devices increased worldwide, Apple wouldn't be able to fulfill it?

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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by tjoff on Sunday October 03, 2021 @01:21PM (#28738803)
Well, the incentives are not that great - since the alternative is to sell a whole new phone and noone can use the old one.
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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by nicce on Sunday October 03, 2021 @01:21PM (#28738806)
> Do you think that if demand for whole devices increased worldwide, Apple wouldn't be able to fulfill it?

They aren’t able, as the current situation is living proof from that. Note the ongoing chip/semiconductor crisis.

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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by Wowfunhappy on Sunday October 03, 2021 @03:40PM (#28739915)
Sure, but this is recent and temporary, and caused in large part by a once-in-a-century pandemic.
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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by nicce on Sunday October 03, 2021 @05:07PM (#28740515)
It is not pandemic alone, otherwise we would have supply already. This problem has developed for years already[1].

And what about pandemic, because of it, supply chains were surprised with the demand of elecronics. So, they could not respond for the demand. And Apple would have had a limit anyway for chip manufacturing based on this.

[1] : https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58230388

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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by luegen on Sunday October 03, 2021 @08:56AM (#28736833)
Petty theft is more an issue of economic inequality. If the criminal had an incentive for being honorable citizens, then theft would not happen.
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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by barry-cotter on Sunday October 03, 2021 @09:42AM (#28737083)
Have you so little respect for people that you think they are all thieves? In India and China, countries in which most of the top 10% by income would fall below the US poverty line most people never steal. Theft is not mostly about poverty.
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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by cassianoleal on Sunday October 03, 2021 @10:06AM (#28737236)
Weird take. Petty theft (like the one being discussed here) can definitely be correlated with inequality.

I agree that most people will not steal. That's been my experience of growing up in a country with rampant poverty and inequality (and crime).

That said, the more people are in need, the more incentive for them to look for solutions outside of a system that has inherently failed them and the people they know.

I have myself been robbed and assaulted multiple times. I have had relatives kidnapped. Cars stolen leaving or entering their own garage, sometimes in nice areas of the city. I have been myself held at gunpoint by both criminals and police. The house I grew up in has been burglarised multiple times. I have not once, and don't know a single person who has been assaulted or robbed by a middle or upper class person.

There is probably also some correlation between white collar crime and corruption, and poverty, but I suspect the direction of causality goes the other way around in this case.

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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by gruez on Sunday October 03, 2021 @01:08PM (#28738703)
> Weird take. Petty theft (like the one being discussed here) can definitely be correlated with inequality.

Source?

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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by mensetmanusman on Sunday October 03, 2021 @09:00AM (#28736857)
Not sure. If you add up damages from theft, by far the rich and powerful steal more in absolute terms.
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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by ir123 on Sunday October 03, 2021 @10:49AM (#28737608)
But that's not petty theft
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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by mensetmanusman on Sunday October 03, 2021 @01:57PM (#28739080)
Not necessarily, insider trading steals a dollar from a few million people. It is petty theft at scale.
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Re:iPhone 13 teardown and repair assessment [video] by simonh on Sunday October 03, 2021 @09:48AM (#28737113)
True, but not relevant to whether Apple should make parts available or not. Apple’s repairability policy isnt going to alleviate income inequality, but it could have an effect on phone theft.
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