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Re:Americans Have No Idea What the Supply Chain Is by baybal2 on Sunday October 03, 2021 @06:36AM (#28736057)
> America has a few key industries where we have the lead,

America has much less key industries than China has. Any discussions about microchips are silly when much bigger elephants in the room are not talked about.

https://www.steel.org/2021/07/steel-imports-up-18-5-year-to-...

America is dangerously dependent on imported steel — all at the same time while having the best iron ore deposits, and coke deposits, and cheap energy.

Now, prepare for a total despair if you haven't seen this graph before:

https://thephillypi.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/162277872...

The situation across dozens more key industries is equally dire.

Re:Americans Have No Idea What the Supply Chain Is by nostrademons on Sunday October 03, 2021 @03:52PM (#28739986)
> America is dangerously dependent on imported steel — all at the same time while having the best iron ore deposits, and coke deposits, and cheap energy.

93% of North American steel produced each year is from recycled products [1], and 98% of products are recycled [2]. There is no reason to use either iron ore or coke for steel production when the vast majority of it is produced in electric arc furnaces from scrap steel. It's better economically and better environmentally.

This is also why Nucor has been eating U.S. Steel's lunch for about 50 years, long before China entered the steelmaking business.

[1] https://cssbi.ca/mid-rise-construction/sustainable-steel

[2] https://www.aisc.org/why-steel/sustainability/

Re:Americans Have No Idea What the Supply Chain Is by baybal2 on Sunday October 03, 2021 @03:55PM (#28740004)
Even Nucor is being very much steamrolled by imports.

Efficiencies of scale achieved by megamills cannot be achieved by small in-situ smelters, simple economics

Re:Americans Have No Idea What the Supply Chain Is by echelon on Sunday October 03, 2021 @11:46AM (#28738056)
Can you enumerate other key industries?

Is there any way we can build them domestically again?

Re:Americans Have No Idea What the Supply Chain Is by baybal2 on Sunday October 03, 2021 @03:11PM (#28739729)
1. Aluminium https://www.ftmmachinery.com/uploads/image/20200526105639_67...

2. Nickel

3. Fertiliser https://static.nationmaster.com/assets/1ccceff/charts/rankin...

4. Non-ferrous alloys

5. Machinery parts, especially consumables like things (i.e. electrodes)

6. Powerplant machinery

7. Electrical distribution equipment, especially transformers

8. Merchant marine (even tiny Greece is ahead of US)

9. Shipbuilding, and naval engineering at large

10. Railways equipment, and vehicles

11. Pharma, with medical consumables, antibiotics, and other essential medicines in particular

12. Heavy industry in general

13. Chromium

14. Manganese

15. Vanadium

16. Chemical catalysts

17. Cobalt