Re:New anti-censorship scheme could make it impossible to bl...
by mgw on Thursday August 11, 2011 @10:18AM
(#2872942)
There may be none in this broad sense, but there are enough that would like to see, for example, all Chinese people be able to browse the web uncensored. These nations could simply not allow connections to be routed over their Telex nodes from IPs inside their own country.
The whole scheme gets interesting when, as retaliation, the other country provides Telex nodes for the users in those same nations which help their people circumvent censorship. The result would be for everyone to be able to browse the web uncensored.
Re:New anti-censorship scheme could make it impossible to bl...
by wisty on Thursday August 11, 2011 @09:04AM
(#2872594)
Well, a statistical analysis will be able to find the difference between browsing https gmail, and posting on Facebook / Twitter. And countries with internet filters may not have high standards of due process.
The other danger would be all offshore https sites getting blocked. Or a concerted effort to Man-in-the-middle all offshore https (assuming that doesn't already happen).
Re:New anti-censorship scheme could make it impossible to bl...
by SoftwareMaven on Thursday August 11, 2011 @11:07AM
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I know of at least one private university that MITMs every SSL connection. Doesn't seem lime it would be that hard to look for the Telex signature at that point.
Of course, the university is training everybody to click on "just trust this certificate", but that's a different issue.
Re:New anti-censorship scheme could make it impossible to bl...
by trotsky on Thursday August 11, 2011 @02:33PM
(#2874132)
Just like enterprises, they get you to install their CA cert as a new trusted root and then they sign their own certs for each domain as they flow through. Corporate IT will just push it through AD or pre-configure it, I'd assume campus IT gets you to run an executable to install it. Since all the traffic will be signed by them you won't get very far without accepting their root.
Re:New anti-censorship scheme could make it impossible to bl...
by praptak on Thursday August 11, 2011 @09:28AM
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"The other danger would be all offshore https sites getting blocked."
Fine by me. "No benefits of the information access for your country unless you also allow dissenting opinions" would be quite a win for any project of this kind.
Re:New anti-censorship scheme could make it impossible to bl...
by jahmed on Thursday August 11, 2011 @08:53PM
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Okay maybe I'm missing something but what prevents the censoring country from obtaining Telex station equipment and placing it on outbound links diverting Telex traffic before it makes it to the outside. Censoring country cab then block/tamper with the results and know that you have illegal Telex software. Signing your traffic doesn't seem to do much for deniability when the man shows up at your door.
Re:New anti-censorship scheme could make it impossible to bl...
by diego_moita on Thursday August 11, 2011 @11:14AM
(#2873206)
It won't be easy to get this thing going. It needs to have scale to be useful.
However, with the wave of FUD being raised against freedom in the internet (hackers, child porn, riots organized in social networks) such scale gets a lot harder.
There are none.
P.s. I don't like it when new projects reuse names of old technology because it adds confusion. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telex)
No none. They want all Chinese people to be able to browse the web as censored by them rather than as censored by China.
The other danger would be all offshore https sites getting blocked. Or a concerted effort to Man-in-the-middle all offshore https (assuming that doesn't already happen).
Of course, the university is training everybody to click on "just trust this certificate", but that's a different issue.
Fine by me. "No benefits of the information access for your country unless you also allow dissenting opinions" would be quite a win for any project of this kind.
However, with the wave of FUD being raised against freedom in the internet (hackers, child porn, riots organized in social networks) such scale gets a lot harder.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2790146
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2775988