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Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by josephcsible on Friday October 01, 2021 @08:41PM (#28724923)
> Here I am just wanting to not have to go through the TSA nudie scanner

You can avoid that with precheck.

> or fear getting put on the no-fly list if my mask slips below my nose before the drink cart comes around.

This is definitely a real problem. It applies on private jets in most cases too, though.

Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by MereInterest on Friday October 01, 2021 @09:03PM (#28725077)
> You can avoid that with precheck.

Precheck is an extremely weird product. If the TSA checks actually had any safety impact, trying to bribe your way around them should be the biggest red flag there is. Instead, precheck is expressly allowed and actively advertised. Precheck is nothing more than the TSA letting you pay your way out of a problem that it created.

Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by xxxtentachyon on Friday October 01, 2021 @09:09PM (#28725123)
I was surprised by this when I went in for my Precheck appointment soon after the program started. I had made room in my schedule for an hour or so, and was horrified when the entire interview was just a TSA employee taking my picture. I don't really understand what the utility could be beyond revenue and getting ahead of constituent pressure from people rich enough to make some noise about how useless the TSA is.
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by josephcsible on Friday October 01, 2021 @09:11PM (#28725132)
It wasn't just that interview. A background check happened behind the scenes.
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by xxxtentachyon on Friday October 01, 2021 @10:35PM (#28725444)
I’m sure it did, but at that point why not automatically grant it to every citizen who can pass a background check?
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by josephcsible on Friday October 01, 2021 @10:43PM (#28725475)
Because it takes time and resources to do the background checks.
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by josephcsible on Friday October 01, 2021 @09:06PM (#28725099)
Your background gets checked as part of getting precheck. Not everyone can get it just because they can afford the fee. And it doesn't let you skip security completely; it just lets you go through a metal detector instead of a body scanner.
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by cosmotic on Friday October 01, 2021 @10:22PM (#28725400)
There are other benefits: typically shorter line, don't have to remove shoes, don't have to unload laptop into bins, sense of superiority, etc.
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by _moof on Saturday October 02, 2021 @04:03AM (#28726900)
The truly hilarious thing about PreCheck is that you don't even need it. Just give the airline a little extra money and you get access to the PreCheck line with no questions asked. I guess I'm glad they dispensed with the pretext, but... what?
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by josephcsible on Saturday October 02, 2021 @12:33PM (#28729942)
You're thinking of first class screening, which is not precheck. It's just a dedicated lane with a shorter line. You're subject to exactly the same checks as regular passengers.
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by ourgovtisinept on Friday October 01, 2021 @09:05PM (#28725088)
>This is definitely a real problem. It applies on private jets in most cases too, though.

I just flew on a private jet for the first time in August. All the paperwork and whatnot said masks were required but we never wore one from the second we walked out onto the tarmac. Nobody batted an eye. Even the pilots had theirs down below the chin while flying. I asked and they said 80%+ of their customers did not want to wear a mask, so they didn't push the topic.

Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by darren_ on Friday October 01, 2021 @08:56PM (#28725027)
> You can avoid that with precheck.

No I can't, I was born in the wrong country and therefore may never be trusted enough to fly unmolested in America.

Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by 908B64B197 on Friday October 01, 2021 @08:59PM (#28725045)
Maybe help your country fix its issues?
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by prepend on Friday October 01, 2021 @08:48PM (#28724969)
There’s zero chance that someone on their private jet is wearing a mask if they don’t want to.
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by JumpCrisscross on Friday October 01, 2021 @08:51PM (#28724987)
> zero chance that someone on their private jet is wearing a mask if they don’t want to

There is a non-zero chance that a charter (e.g. Wheels Up or Blade) will require it. That seems to be where the bulk of the new demand is coming from.

Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by dogorman on Friday October 01, 2021 @08:55PM (#28725017)
They might claim they do, on their paperwork, website, etc. But what is the reality when they're actually in the air? Do you think stewardesses on these private jets are really in the habit of making demands of their multimillionaire customers? Somehow I doubt it.
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by ourgovtisinept on Friday October 01, 2021 @09:06PM (#28725104)
Don't know why you're being downvoted- in my experience you are 100% correct. Also, having a flight attendant on a private jet is pretty rare. It's usually 2 pilots and drinks are self-serve. Depends on the size of the jet and whether you request one, though.
Re:Private jet rage grows as a record number of fliers strai... by chrismcb on Saturday October 02, 2021 @12:50AM (#28726050)
Precheck... Sure feels like a protection racket. It also feels like an easy thing for a terrorist to take advantage of