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Re:Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant un... by chefkoch on Thursday September 30, 2021 @02:20PM (#28709378)
>A simple, basic car, with the ONLY electronic control being for:

- Valve timing - Fuel injection - Oxygen and throttle - Emissions

You still need electronics for

- ABS - ESP - Airbags (- Diagnostics)

Because these are mandated.

Buy a cheap Dacia and there won't be much else except electric windows.

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Re:Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant un... by paganel on Thursday September 30, 2021 @02:23PM (#28709412)
I found that one can live without ESP.

> Buy a cheap Dacia and there won't be much else except electric windows.

As mandated by EU law the latest Dacia models already have most of those, they do have back up cameras, for example.

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Re:Chip shortage leads carmaker Opel to shut German plant un... by NathanielK on Thursday September 30, 2021 @02:58PM (#28709888)
> I found that one can live without ESP.

True, but on average ESP is highly effective. Cars with ESP are correlated with 40-50% less running off the road or roll over crashes.[0] Carrie Underwood may sing about Jesus Taking the Wheel[1], but she really has GM Stabilitrak to thank.

[0] https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/... [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lydBPm2KRaU

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