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Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by munk-a on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @07:23PM (#28701296)
That the government is still visibly divided over whether vaccination is a good idea is what really troubles me here and it's pretty much purely America at this point. Canadian liberals don't like the Liberals - Liberals don't like the Conservatives and neither Liberals nor Conservatives like liberals. That all said every represented party in Canada (and almost every individual MP) is either pro-vax or losing a lot of clout right now. In the US the GOP is technically for vaccinations and sane mandates - but if you look at House Reps and Governors you'll see a lot of anti-mask mandate laws and other protests.

The government is of the people - but it should be the best of us not the biggest conspiracy theorists among us (having one or two is fine - but this problem is a lot bigger than just Marjorie Taylor Greene)

Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by dude187 on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @08:39PM (#28701917)
> That the government is still visibly divided over whether vaccination is a good idea

Where is that visible?

Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by TedDoesntTalk on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @09:34PM (#28702244)
The article mentions Robert Kennedy Jr. I believe he’s a senator?
Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by dude187 on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @10:48PM (#28702632)
In no way is that "the government", and the most I can gather from that article is he's against mandates. Not the vaccines themselves.

I feel one of the biggest sources of divide right now is coming from all of those who try to conflate the two. Agree or not, one can be opposed to mandates to the point of rebellion while still rushing to take the vaccine. They are two completely separate things.

Even if he was one cog actively in "the government", I still would say that nothing here shows "That the government is still visibly divided over whether vaccination is a good idea"

Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by reissbaker on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @10:18PM (#28702489)
He's not, and never has been. He's just related to JFK. (And the son of Bobby Kennedy, who was a senator.)
Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by jolux on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @07:41PM (#28701421)
> In the US the GOP is technically for vaccinations and sane mandates

Some GOP members support these things. Many do not, as you mention the governors and reps.

Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by munk-a on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @07:45PM (#28701455)
I meant specifically the party leadership (since US political parties don't have formal representation) - If you look at McConnell and even Trump (when not hyperbolizing) you'll see they very consistently message that everyone should be vaccinated. One of the things I sort of appreciate about Trump is the fact that, even while getting booed at most of his events over it, he's continued to mention that he was vaccinated and it's perfectly safe. (This isn't meant to devolve into things we think about Trump - I just wanted to call out that single point).
Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by TedDoesntTalk on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @09:36PM (#28702258)
Each and every politician is an individual with his own beliefs and biases.

To expect an entire group to form a single consensus is no different than expecting the entire American populace to form a single consensus, is it?

Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by munk-a on Thursday September 30, 2021 @02:06AM (#28703654)
Politicians need to be smart enough to know when to present a united front - they have a much greater visibility into the damage this pandemic is causing to the country by being completely immersed in dealing with it as their vocation. Yes, some people might still disagree (I've got no illusions or hope for a fully united consensus) but those people should be fewer, harder to see and much more ostracized than what the US political arena looks like today.

Politicians are also quite capable from detaching their personal beliefs from their public beliefs - Dick Cheney notably held to the party line opposing gay marriage while having an openly gay daughter. There are a litany of other examples of failing to practice what you preach - so yea, even if they privately hold these beliefs it's quite reasonable to assume that Mitch McConnell and others would be able to coerce them into falling in line when talking to the public.

Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by jolux on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @10:41PM (#28702590)
Parties are supposed to help with the "forming a consensus" part.
Re:YouTube is banning anti-vaccine activists and blocking al... by noduerme on Wednesday September 29, 2021 @08:22PM (#28701767)
Yeah, give that guy a medal for just once not saying what his lunatic base wants to hear.